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The time is 7 o'clock.
It's once again time for Off The Hook.
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I'm here
I'm in a resort
are here. I should quit, it's not a resort, it's my mother's apartment. Oh well, you know,
I'm sure it's very nice. It looks like a hotel. Tell us something about No Storage. You've
been active in this for quite a while and put out some very interesting titles. So,
I tried to actually get the streaming audio to hear what you guys have been talking about,
but I should talk just briefly about what the thought was for this show. Now, are Jim
and Jonathan on? Yeah, but we haven't introduced them yet. If you could just tell us something
about No Storage and what it stands for, what kinds of things you've done. Sorry, so our
focus is on what I talk about as geek entertainment, and it's ideas like we publish books for hackers.
I think when we put out Hacking the Art of Exploitation, for example, I think it, well,
we basically really released it at HOPE, I don't remember the year, 2000 something.
And that made a big difference because it was, I think about the first hacking book
to really raise the level of dialogue when it came to hacking. So, hacking wasn't, at
least as far as this book was concerned, just about pointing people at URLs and use this
to exploit and so on. And my goal, since I've been publishing hacking books, I'd say starting
with the time when we started publishing Linux books, is to really raise the bar for
information about hacking and basically make script kiddies smarter and not more dangerous.
And I think of the groups that I publish, and we publish books on Lego, we've even published
real popular titles, just sort of fluffy titles, like there's a title in the Mac stores now
called My New Mac. But of all the groups that we appeal to and that I've met, I find
the hacking group certainly one of the most interesting, if not the most interesting.
I go to more hacking conferences than probably anything all year.
Well, it's interesting, you mentioned Legos, and that's something that we're going to be
focusing on because we have on the phone with us, along with you, two authors of a book
entitled First Lego League. We have James Floyd Kelly and Jonathan Dodlin joining us
on the telephone. You guys there?
Yep.
Great. Tell us something about this book, First Lego League. What's it all about? The
unofficial guide to Legos?
Jonathan, are you there? I didn't hear Jonathan.
Did we lose Jonathan?
We have him on hold, but we can only have a certain amount of calls at a time.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
I can take that. The book is basically an A to Z guide for coaches and students who
want to participate in the First Lego League robotics competition. They're held on a state
level, actually on a local level, and there are regional competitions that move on to
state competitions that move on to the national, or really what they call the World Festival,
which is held each year.
Okay. Jonathan joins us now, I believe, right?
Yes.
Jonathan, welcome.
Hi.
I wanted to try to put this in context and talk briefly about why this belongs in a show
like Off the Hook.
Go ahead.
So, I went to the, thanks to Jim, I attended the, I guess it's the World Championships
of First Lego League. Now, First Lego League is a combination, the first organization was
started by Dean Kamen. His most famous invention that I know of is the Segway. But there were
a lot of people, and Jim and Jonathan will correct me if I'm wrong, a lot of people behind
FIRST, and these are serious scientists and engineers. When I was there, like all these
XPRIZE people were trooping through, and I felt really small because the net worth in
the room was probably about $200 billion.
Wow. So, I know there's a connection like that between Legos and the Segway.
Well, with Dean Kamen, I mean, the whole focus of FIRST, the reason I think this is so fascinating
and why it's so consistent with the kind of thing that we're trying to do is that it's
designed to appeal to smart kids. And I guarantee there's at least one person in your listening
audience who grew up, maybe didn't really have friends that understood them. They were
brighter than a lot of the kids at school, and there was kind of no outlet. And maybe
they weren't playing sports, but their skills weren't particularly valued. And FIRST Lego
League, if you ever have the chance to attend at least the championship, it's like a sporting
event with smart kids playing with robots and doing robotic challenges. And it's in
a stadium. And you see people, I was never a big sports guy. Well, not team sports. And
people are cheering in the stands. They all have their colors and stuff, and they're cheering
for these robots that they've built. And there are different levels. There's a lot to talk
about. We don't need to talk about it at all, but they're cheering for the teams. And their
teams are solving these challenges using robots that they've designed, whether they're designed
with Lego Mindstorms kit, which is what this book focuses on, or they're larger robots
built out of steel and welded or whatever. That's the FIRST Robotics Competition. But
it's a fascinating thing. And it's a great outlet for smart kids who want to be doing
things that they find are interesting and using their head.
Now in this book, The Unofficial Guide to the FIRST Lego League, some of the points
that you'll learn by having this book are how to organize, recruit, and manage a team,
how to find equipment, mentors, and funding. And this is the part that I really like, design,
build, and program winning robots. And I think we've all wanted to design a winning robot
at some point in our lives, and this is actually a guide to how to do that. Also, tackle each
of the four FLL components, from robot game to teamwork, FLL, of course, being the FIRST
Lego League. And use strategies and technologies from FLL masters to increase your scores.
Now, I know, not Kevin, you've been involved with Legos. What is the appeal for hackers
and Legos? There's this connection that I've seen over the years. It's almost manic in
some ways.
Well, who didn't grow up with Legos? That's the real question. I mean, they're the staple
of my childhood. Everybody had Legos. It was just so cool to take little plastic blocks
and put them together, and who knows what you're going to have after an hour.
I didn't have Legos. I had Tonka toys.
I'm sorry. Unfortunate for you.
I lived at the fire. No, they don't make those anymore. After people started swallowing them,
I think they got rid of them.
Or the Erector set.
Oh, those were good, too. Yeah.
I cut myself good on one of those.
They're plastic now.
But anyway, I know there are people out there. We'll give you guys a chance to talk about
the book in greater detail, but I just want to let the folks know out there that we're
offering a special deal tonight, thanks to the folks over at NoStarch, or Bill for NoStarch,
and the guys who put this book together, The First Lego League, The Unofficial Guide to
the First Lego League. We also have another Lego book, two Lego books. If people are interested
in calling up and pledging, The Unofficial Lego Builders Guide. And Bill, can you tell
something about that particular book?
Yeah, let me tell you about why I think this is interesting. So The Unofficial Lego Builders
Guide has actually been one of our best-selling titles. As far as adults are concerned, it's
probably the best-selling adult Lego book in the world. It's a guide that teaches you
basic Lego building techniques. So if you build a house, you want the wall to stand
up, it tells you how to construct the columns, how to keep the roof from falling in and stuff
like that. And that was interesting to me because I'm not particularly creative when
it comes to Lego. And I remember, you know, I would just build a house. I'd build four
walls and a roof and then it wouldn't last. This teaches you how to be a serious builder.
In fact, the book was used by this guy that won a competition to become a Lego master
builder. These are the people that designed, for example, the projects at Legoland and
so forth. He learned everything out of this book and won the competition. But don't think
about this necessarily, I'm talking to your listeners now, as a book for yourself. Think
about it as something to give to your nephew, your son, the smart kid down the block. This
is a way to inspire imagination. And the first Lego League book, to me, is designed as a
way in. Like if you think this sounds kind of interesting, it's actually kind of confusing
to figure out first Lego League. This is a manual. This is a way in. This is a way
that you can create a first Lego League team in your neighborhood. You can get your school
involved and other parents. And I've started trying to motivate this in my community. And
it's a very exciting thing because everyone knows kids either they were one themselves
or they know someone who could use this kind of outlet.
Well, it just goes to show how there's always another door to open in the hacker world.
And Legos is another door. It's something that opens up into a whole world of creativity
and imagination and even mischief. And what we're offering here tonight is a way into
that magical world that I think a lot of hackers, a lot of people in computer technology also
are fascinated with. You'll get both of these books, the unofficial guide to the first Lego
League and the unofficial Lego Builders Guide. That in addition to an off-the-hook t-shirt
for a pledge of $75, which is a pretty good deal. We're only offering it for the next
25 minutes or so as long as we're on the air. The phone number is 212-209-2950. And call
and grab them now while you can. And the most important thing though is you're helping the
radio station out by keeping us on the air. And we can talk about things. Well, you don't
really hear Legos talked about on many radio stations. It's not exactly the most controversial
of subjects, but it is fascinating and it opens up doors and it's something that can
allow you to grow and develop as a human being as well. We've got three calls on the line
so far, which is a good response I think. I think it's testament to how people feel
about something creative like this. We offered a Lego book once in the past as well. And
the response, it simply was flabbergasting. People really are into this kind of thing.
And I think it's a very positive step. Again, at $75, you'll get two Lego books, the unofficial
Lego Builder's Guide and the unofficial guide to the first Lego League. And you'll also
get the official off-the-hook t-shirt, 212-209-2950.
So that's a pretty good deal. These books are going to be worth pretty close to $75.
And you get the radio station, which you can get nowhere else but here, of course, the
radio station, 212-209-2950. You get these books, you get the radio station, you get
the radio program. I don't know why you wouldn't call.
Well, I mean, maybe they didn't hear the phone number, 212-209-2950. We have five calls on
the line, so I'm impressed so far. And I think we only have four or five volunteers down
there. We do need more volunteers, by the way. If you're listening to the radio station
and you want to help out, come on by and help answer phones any time of the day or night.
We can certainly use the help. If the phone keeps ringing, it means we have more calls
and we have volunteers. Keep trying. Just keep trying. You will definitely get through
at some point. 212-209-2950.
Now, I want to give the guys who actually wrote the book a chance to talk about what
inspired them and maybe some of their experiences.
Well, Jonathan should tell his story for a couple... I don't think you know anything about
Jonathan, but Jonathan should tell you a little, like, at least for a minute about himself.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Yeah, I'm a 17-year-old home-educated student in northern New Jersey. And when I was nine
years old...
Which exit?
Which exit? Exit 19.
Is that how people are defined by their exit number now?
Wow. Okay.
Yeah, so I got interested in robotics when I was nine years old. I saved up my money
and then I bought this LEGO Mindstorms robotics invention system for $200,
which it was a robot kit sold by LEGO. It had a microcomputer, some motors, sensors,
all the stuff you needed to build these robots. And so I liked building the robots with that.
And then when I was 13, I helped start a first LEGO League team to compete in the challenge.
And in our second year of competing, I was the leading member. And we won the robot performance
and the champion's award, which is like the overall award at the NJ State Championship.
And then we went on to the World Festival down in Atlanta, Georgia.
And there we won... Our robot got perfect scores in all of its rounds, three out of three.
And we won the first place robot performance. And we also won first place innovative robot.
Now, how did you get involved in writing this book?
When I was... After... Let's see. After a little while competing in first LEGO League,
I was an active viewer of this. Jim Kelly started a blog about the LEGO Mindstorms NXT, which is
LEGO Mindstorms robot system, called The Next Step Blog. And after a while of reading on it
and giving comments and sending some robot ideas, he invited me to become a contributor.
And so when I was... As a contributor... How old were you then?
14, I think. Okay.
And so as a contributor, I participated in some contributor book projects
that the contributors of The Next Step started and did. The first one was the LEGO Mindstorms
NXT Idea Book. Which we published.
Yeah. Yeah. No Stars published. And then after that, Jim Kelly invited me to co-author a book
about first LEGO League with him after our second year in first LEGO League because he saw... I had
the experience as a team member, and he had the experience as a referee, judge, volunteer. And so
we wanted to put together a book to help other people get started in first LEGO League.
Wow. That's quite a story.
It's been amazing.
It shows how many people are involved in this, how seriously they take it, and how complex it
can all get. Referees and robots. And you don't think about that when you first hear about LEGOs,
but yeah, it really gets pretty complex.
By the way, our phone lines are open now. So if you were trying to get through,
now you can get through 212-209-2950. Pledge $75, you'll get two amazing books on LEGOs,
and you'll wind up learning so much, you might wind up as skilled as Jonathan at some point.
And who knows? You'll be building robots, having robots around your house,
LEGO robots, all sorts of fun things like that.
But you got to call now, 212-209-2950. You'll also get thrown in, for good measure,
the off-the-hook t-shirt. So it's a pretty good deal, but it's only available until 8 o'clock
Eastern time. If you know somebody who you think might be into this kind of thing,
even if you're not into it yourself, it's an amazing present. It's something that will really
open up some eyes and keep people out of trouble too, I think. 212-209-2950.
So Jim, tell us something about your experiences.
Well, like Jonathan said, I've been a referee and a judge at various FLL competitions. But
I go back a ways. I studied robotics a little bit in college. But back then, the robots were
the size of a room. The arms were like the big ones that you see working on automobiles.
And we were given very rare opportunities to even touch these robots. But like Jonathan,
about 10 years ago or so, when LEGO released its first robot kit, I went and grabbed one. I was a
hobbyist. And I started playing around with it. And I saw a lot of potential with it.
I'm a technical writer. I write for a living a lot of technology-related books and articles.
And so a few years back, LEGO got ahold of me and said, hey, we've got this new version of
the robotics kit coming out. We'd like to see some books written on it. And we'd like you to
be involved in helping us test the robot. So I got involved in it that way. And that gave me sort
of an insider's view of the robot kit. And I've had a lot more hands-on with it, just given I had
about a year head start on anybody else seeing the kit. And so when Bill approached us about
doing some books for NoStarch, Jonathan was a no-brainer. He's young, but he's very gifted
with robots. And he contributed to the first book. So I started looking, and I realized there
really were not – I was getting a lot of questions from teachers and parents. How do we start a team?
How do we get involved? Once I start a team, how do I recruit team members? Things like that.
And I came to realize that there really was not a one-source place for information for a new team.
And so I approached Bill and Jonathan basically at the same time and said, hey, guys, let's do a book.
A to Z, that a new parent or a new teacher that wants to get involved can read start to finish
and give them some basic and some advanced information that can hit the ground running.
And we've had a lot of positive feedback. I've had coaches, parents come up to me and say,
the book is dog-eared and falling apart because the kids – not only do the parents and the teachers
read it, but the kids, they take it home, they scour it for as much as they can get.
And I think we did a pretty good job. And Jonathan, again, was a no-brainer for this.
He has come at it from a student's point of view, from a participant's point of view.
And of course, he's won the contest. His team has won the contest, the Champions Awards.
So he brings to the book real know-how and real tips that teams who want to compete and win – and
again, let me rephrase that. Winning – it's not all about winning. We always tell kids,
it's not about winning, it's not about winning. But a lot of teams want to do the best they can
in the competition. And so we hope that this book is giving the parents and teachers and kids
enough material that they feel confident going into the competition.
And this first book is First LEGO League, The Unofficial Guide, written by Jim Kelly and
Jonathan Darlin. And it's being offered here tonight along with The Unofficial LEGO Builders
Guide, written by Alan Bedford. And basically, a couple of words about him. He's a lifelong LEGO
fan and builder whose most ambitious model to date is a 5,000-piece replica of Toronto's famed
CN Tower. And he's active in the online LEGO community as well, having contributed ideas and
discussions for several years. And again, we're offering that book along with First LEGO League
and an off-the-hook t-shirt for anybody who calls 212-209-2950, pledges $75. You'll get that. We
take credit cards, we take all kinds of things. But right now, we just want to take your phone
calls. We have a bunch, but we need a bunch more for us to make our minimum for this hour,
which is about $1,000. We're up to $550, which is good, but not quite there yet. So if you know
somebody who would benefit from this, and I know a lot of people would benefit from this,
call 212-209-2950 and pledge. Join the people who are on the phone already. Now, Mike, I know you
had a question about this whole thing. I had a question, and I just want to remind people
the telephone number, 212-209-2950. But my question, and I know, Jim, that you just said
it's not just about winning, but I'm really curious how one does, in fact, win. Do the
Legos beat each other up, or what happens? Imagine an obstacle course with a lot of
different things to do. Drop a ball in this box. Put this pole in the hole, things like that.
But take it on a miniature scale where a small robotics kit would be doing it.
Basically, what they do is the kits are limited by a tabletop that has a mat,
and all the challenges on the table that the robot will attempt are made of Lego pieces
themselves. So, you know, it's fun. You watch these kids, they build these little robots,
and these robots are not remote controlled. Let me make that clear. These kids are programming
these robots to go out and do these challenges on their own. And so once they press the go button
and the robot starts moving, it's really fun to watch these robots go and lift and move things
and place things and turn switches and drop balls and stuff like that. And that's one part
of the competition. But, you know, the teams also have to do a lot of research. They have
to give a presentation on some technology related topic, and that changes year to year.
They also have to give a talk in front of judges. I've been a technical judge many times, and
they have to come in, and for five minutes they have to give us a presentation about how they
designed their robot, what kind of engineering skills they picked up or they learned to
accomplish certain things. And Jonathan might want to address the overall, you know, how do
you win the competition, because he's certainly done it. Yeah, they have four different categories
that you can win, and then there's this one award that's based on all four categories you win.
There's the robot performance category, which is just based on your score and how you perform
on the field. Then there's the robot design award given to the team who has the best robot design.
That's determined from both their performance on the field and their interview with the technical
judges. Then they have a teamwork category. Teams have a five-minute interview with judges about
their teamwork, how they work together as a team, how they solve problems.
And then there's their project category, which is they have to research and solve a real-world
problem each year, and then they give a presentation to judges about their research.
And then the champion's award, which is considered the overall award,
that's based on how the teams did in all four categories.
So the thing to recognize with this, with FIRST LEGO League and with LEGO, is if anyone's ever
been to a hackerspace or knows any serious hackers, there's almost always a building
component in a hackerspace. Almost every hacker that I know is building something,
whether they're constructing something from scratch, taking something apart, and rebuilding.
What FIRST LEGO League does is it really appeals to the scientist or the creative personality
in a young kid, or it kind of moves up in age. And it offers them something constructive to do
that they find really appealing. And I can speak for my son, who was 11. His birthday present when
he was 10 was a soldering kit, and that's what he wanted to do. He wanted to make stuff.
And there's a real, at the core of so many hackers, is this desire to build stuff.
And then LEGO Mindstorms have to be programmed. Programming is an important part of the whole
Mindstorms project. So it's a terrific way to combine these things. And I think
together this makes a great gift. I'm talking about the two books together for, again, a kid,
your son or daughter, a kid down the street, a nephew, whatever, who's interested and
just wants to build stuff and play around. And you can get both of those books plus the
off-the-hook t-shirt for a pledge of $75 just by calling now, 212-209-2950, Country Code 1,
if you're outside the United States, 212-209-2950. We're only going to be offering this for
less than 10 minutes. So if you know somebody that would benefit from this, and I guarantee
you do, you know somebody who will benefit from this, please give us a call because,
most importantly, you're helping the radio station out so that we can talk about things
like this and all the other issues we talk about through the course of our broadcasting here.
And just to reaffirm Bill's statement of just how incredible FIRST is in LEGOs,
my university offers a course, a 300-level computer science course, where we are given
a mind-stored LEGO set and we go through the whole FIRST LEGO League competition.
Wow.
Really?
Really. And then we go out to New York Public City schools and mentor teams. And it was one
of the most unbelievable experiences I've ever had to mentor these kids. They were more energetic
than I've ever been in my entire life about coming...
They're smart. They're smart kids.
Way smarter than me. And I'm, you know...
They're pretty smart.
Damn smart.
Damn smart's a great way to put it.
That's one of the things I love most about the LEGO and the FLL combined is,
from an engineer's point of view, I have an engineering background, I'm seeing kids
at a young age, once again, getting an interest in math and science. And when they finish FLL,
because there is an upper age limit, they're moving on to either more advanced robots,
or they've got just enough interest that they go, when they start learning on their own,
how to solder, how to build circuits, how to program. And I think robotics is really,
for the United States, it's a good possibility to get our country, you know, sort of,
once again, moving forward with the math and science. And we've got a lot of kids that this
has sparked their interest.
This could be part of the stimulus plan.
Giving me hope.
Yeah, with LEGOs. Stimulus with LEGOs. I think...
If they send us $100 billion, we'll send them lots of LEGOs.
One LEGO kit per child.
Wow. Well, I mean, it would do a lot of good. It definitely would. And yeah, go ahead, Kevin.
It would really do. I mean, just to give some context, I actually got frustrated
while trying to do this. And then I go out and see a 10-year-old kid solve a
problem that took me two hours and five minutes.
Wow. Put you in your place, huh?
Definitely put me in my place.
They don't get frustrated when it comes to... they understand... prototyping is just natural
to them. If they try something, if it doesn't work, they rip this piece off, they try something else.
It really is good practice for, you know, when they get older and they have to work with a bunch
of adults in developing anything. I think it helps kids understand that, you know,
your first solution is not always going to be the final solution.
Okay. So, folks, we're on a home stretch here. We have one call left on the line.
We had a whole bunch just a few minutes ago. Don't let the people down there rest.
They're there to answer phones. We just sent somebody else down to answer phones.
212-209-2950. We're at 925, so we're $75 away from our goal, which is great.
But I'm sure there's a lot of people out there, a lot more people who will benefit greatly from
having these two books on Legos, basically opening up a whole lot of doors and maybe
helping some people that you know will benefit from this, steering a kid into the right direction,
just expanding your mind. That's what it's all about. That's what we're here for week after week.
And it's marvelous to see it manifested in something like this, something like
the whole Lego community. 212-209-2950. We have three calls on the line. But again,
we only have a couple minutes left. You want to thank people quickly, Red Hat?
Yeah, let's thank people.
All right. Make it quick because we're running out of time.
Let's start by thanking Brad from Windsor, Connecticut.
Okay. Got to go faster than that.
I'm sorry. Chance from Fort Hood, Texas.
Jeanette from Syracuse.
Laura from Nyack.
Shirley from Brooklyn.
Chris from Valley Stream.
Adam from Holmdel, New Jersey.
JC from Brooklyn.
And Eric from Claremont, California.
And we actually had someone call in and pledge because they wanted to have the
books sent to their school that they work in.
Oh, I imagine schools are very interested in this kind of a thing.
They are.
Absolutely. Okay, folks, we're pretty much out of time. But I want to give you guys a
chance to say some final words. Again, our phone number 212-209-2950. Get both the Lego books and
off the hook t-shirt for a pledge of $75. And if you just want the t-shirt, you can pledge $25 and
get that or anything above $25 and get that as well. But I really recommend the Lego books because
it really livens up a room and makes people think and talk and communicate. Go ahead, guys.
Well, let me tell you, if you have a child or if you're a parent of a child and you
want to learn more about the robots kits, go to NoStarch.com.
Bill has done a great job of putting together a large collection of Lego books. You're just
talking about, you've heard mention of two, but he's actually got a nice library of about
five going. And these books are plenty to give a parent and a child a lot of thinking, a lot of
material to work from.
Wait till you see our new book about building military vehicles out of Lego.
Oh, boy.
Don't give that to your parents.
I can hardly wait. Well, Bill Pollack from NoStarch, I want to thank you so much,
both for being here tonight, but just for being there in general with the amazing books that you
publish and just being there in the community. Very positive for us. And Jim and Jonathan,
I want to thank you guys for your efforts, too, and the inspiration that no doubt you've given
to a lot of people tonight. And we hope to see you at our next conference. Maybe we could do
some kind of Lego display or competition.
All right.
Thank you, guys.
Thanks for having us on. We really appreciate it.
Thanks again. Again, our phone number is 212-209-2950. Two Lego books,
off-the-hook t-shirt for a pledge of $75. You can't beat that. All right, let's go out with
another phone song. This one for kids. Here you go. All About Cell Phones.
We had an accident at the grocery store when our shopping cart slid across the floor
and bashed another one. I should have known my mom was talking on her cellular phone.
We had a mishap in the parking lot. Mom was leaving our parking spot. We crunched an SUV.
It made me groan. My mom was talking on her cellular phone. Blah, blah, talking at the
wheel or when she's walking. We need towing. Oh, please watch where you're going. Dad came
to help us. His face was red. Mom took his car keys and off we sped. We smashed that car too,
although on loan. My mom was talking on her cellular phone. Blah, blah, talking at the
wheel or when she's walking. We need towing. Oh, please watch where you're going. I got a
brand new bike with a silver bell and a helmet that's just as well because I also got my very own
shiny brand new cellular phone. Blah, blah, talking at the wheel or when she's walking.
We need towing. Oh, please watch where you're going. Oh, blah, blah, talking at the wheel or
when she's walking. We need towing. Oh, please watch where you're going.
Hello? Oh, yeah, I'm riding my bike on the sidewalk. No, no, it's perfectly...
All right, another phone song. Hey out there.