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Wait, I am not sick, and I don't want any of you people to get me sick.
But I think you got us sick. Well, actually, I'm not sick at all, but Redbird, I think you just sneezed or something.
I am not sick. Good evening.
Okay. And over on the other side, not Kevin.
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Bernie, how's your health holding out?
My health is good here in Philadelphia, and I hope we don't get any of our listeners sick.
Well, that's been a common complaint over the years, but we'll see if we can continue the tradition.
I want to thank our listeners, by the way, because we did so well in the last few weeks for the fundraiser.
I think we did better than we've ever done before.
We raised at least $1,000 each hour.
And last show, last week, we raised over $2,000.
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Yeah, I think so.
I think it was those Legos. People went nuts for Legos.
Don't understand it.
And if you like Legos, you're going to love Hope, because we're going to have all kinds.
It's going to be a Lego theme, I think.
Legos everywhere.
That might be pushing it.
We're going to have a Lego speaker somehow, an actual dress by a Lego character.
I don't know how it works.
I don't understand the technology, but it's incredible.
You shouldn't say these things.
People are going to expect you to actually do it.
No, people are going to come forward and do it.
That's how the hacker world works.
You say something that's completely impossible.
Someone says, you know what?
I could do this, because I know how to solder, and I can build things.
You don't solder Legos.
You see, now you're a naysayer.
That's why you will never be a Lego master.
All right.
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And by the way, Hope registration, pre-registration is now open, www.hope.net.
The process has begun.
Boy, you know, there have been so many things going on in the last few weeks.
We just got the spring issue done yesterday, and just all this activity.
And now the conference is coming up, so it's going to be an action-packed year.
So, looking forward to it all.
Now, we have all kinds of news to catch up on, because we haven't really done much of that in the last month.
And we also want to take phone calls tonight.
So, write down the number, 212-209-2900.
We'll be taking phone calls probably about the half-hour mark, trying to get as many in as possible tonight.
Now, Mike, I know you have a story that you've been itching to talk about for the last couple of weeks, and we just didn't have time.
Well, we weren't on the air.
We weren't on the air, and then we were on the air, but we were asking for money, and we had to talk about Legos.
And now let's focus on…
And there's breaking news in this story.
Well, we might as well go for the breaking news first.
Yes, the breaking news is that the Swiss bank, which is Bank Julius Bar, in the WikiLeaks case, has abruptly abandoned its lawsuit.
Let me just stop you right there.
You just sort of jumped over WikiLeaks case.
I think most people have no idea what that even means.
Well, that's very sad, because WikiLeaks is this website where people can leak documents to.
So, if you work for a corporation or a government, and you have a secret, you can send your document there, and they'll post it for all the world to see.
So, if I, for instance, knew something about 2600 Magazine, which I work for, and I wanted to let the world know about the unfair labor practices or something inside that organization,
I would send my memo or my document or whatever it is I'm able to uncover to…
What's the website?
WikiLeaks.org.
That's W-I-K-I-L-E-A-K-S dot O-R-G?
That's right.
All right.
And for a while, if you tried to go to WikiLeaks.org, you wouldn't go there.
What do you mean?
Their domain name was deregistered temporarily as a result of this lawsuit.
The bank, the Swiss bank, which I already tried to pronounce and probably got wrong, sued Dynadot, which is a registrar, and they sued WikiLeaks.
And WikiLeaks was kind of busy, so I guess they didn't show up.
And Dynadot was like, you know what, just go away, we'll do whatever you want.
And what the bank wanted was for the domain name to be pulled.
You're saying they didn't show up for their own lawsuit?
Well, you know, they're not in California.
They can't just be showing up all the time.
Well, I got sued in California, and somehow I managed to deal with it.
Well, they started to show up later.
Okay.
But at the very beginning, they were unavailable.
Kind of show up for your own lawsuits.
I mean, that's, if nothing else, just to mock the people.
Well, it was a very short schedule.
You can't just say, hey, show up tomorrow or we're going to take down your website.
Yeah.
We had like one day, I remember, back in 2000 to respond.
But yeah, okay.
I can see that.
All right.
So this registrar, they're located in California?
Yeah.
Dynadot is in California.
Okay.
And they just deregistered their site?
Yeah.
Or deactivated it?
I don't know what the difference is.
Well, if you deregister it, then it's open.
Anybody can register it, right?
No.
It was locked.
So no one could register it, but no one could use it either.
I see.
Okay.
Now, in the case of Wikileaks, this wasn't so bad because they had all kinds of other domain names in other jurisdictions.
So Wikileaks.be worked throughout the whole thing, Wikileaks.cx, all this stuff.
The servers themselves are, I guess, in Sweden, although they don't announce that anywhere.
It just seems to be the case.
But what's interesting here is that regardless of the merits, these documents in question allege sort of tax havens.
I downloaded them.
They didn't make any sense to me.
I don't know if they're real or fake or show illegality or not.
But regardless of these particular documents, the bank was able to get the entire Wikileaks website removed from the .org landscape.
Banks can do things like that.
They have a lot of intimidation power.
And they were able to do it by suing this third party who didn't want to spend a lot of money on lawyers, just wanted the whole thing to go away as quickly as possible.
I think it's a new technique or relatively uncommon at least for getting websites shut down.
And it's really frightening that other people will try and use this in the future as well.
An analogy I read is imagine if there were one article in the New York Times that someone didn't like and they sued the printing company, not the New York Times itself, but some printing company and forced them to print only blank pages instead of newspapers.
Or simply took down their entire website, deregisterednewyorktimes.com website.
That would be something.
Although I do suspect the New York Times would respond to a lawsuit threat.
I do suspect that.
That's why it's important to always take these things seriously when they come through.
We always take our lawsuit threats seriously.
In fact, we usually print the letters.
It's important to do that.
It would be nice to know what companies exist, domain registrars and web hosting services and magazines, for instance, that are willing to respond to lawsuits and fight them instead of just giving in and saying, okay, well, we won't print this material or take this website down or something.
So I don't know of any list that exists, but it would be nice to compile such a thing so that people know like, okay, if there's something that might be considered controversial, these are safe places to host it.
Yeah.
Well, we tried that.
We tried to host the ECSS, and they went right after us.
I guess our name came up first in the alphabetical list.
But as far as this particular case goes, now do we even know what the information was that was posted in the first place, something having to do with the Swiss bank?
Yeah.
Like I said, you could always get to wikileaks.be, and now you can go back to wikileaks.org, and you can download the documents.
.be or .de?
.be for Belgium.
Belgium, okay.
And like I said, I downloaded one.
I couldn't make heads or tails of it.
There was some rich guy in Manhattan who was making trusts, and there was a note saying, look, this shows evidence of illegality, but I don't know enough about the banking system to know if it did or not.
Now, the Wikileaks site is back up.
Yeah.
Is it through the same registrar now or is it a different one?
I guess it's the same one.
All right.
Now, is that information about the bank there or has that been taken down?
All the information is still there.
Okay.
So people can now look at that.
Where does the lawsuit stand exactly?
Right.
As I said, as of today, the bank seems to have at least temporarily given up.
Okay.
Because no one ever heard of them before, this Swiss bank.
So they succeeded.
And now they're getting all this bad press.
Yeah, that's the thing.
When you sue people, you've got to be ready for the ramifications.
And in the Internet world, it can spread like you would not believe, your worst nightmares.
Emmanuel?
Yes, go ahead.
This is, I think, known in the community as the Streisand effect.
I don't know if the listener is aware that a few years ago,
some company that was surveying the California coastline for environmental purposes
photographed the whole coastline from an airplane,
which happened to include Barbara Streisand's house, and it was all posted on the web.
But then people just started linking to or copying the picture of her house from above,
and she didn't like that.
So she sued the company who took the picture of her house,
and it garnered so much more attention than if she just ignored it.
And as a result of the lawsuit, a lot of other people mirrored the pictures of her house,
and it got probably thousands of times more attention than it would have if she didn't sue them.
So the same thing happened with this bank, this Swiss bank.
Probably not very many people would have been interested in this data
until they realized that, oh, I'm not supposed to see this.
I really want to see it now.
I'd like to see that kind of a response every time people are threatened.
For instance, with arrest if you take pictures inside the subway system,
when people threaten you with that, there need to be more pictures than ever.
When we're forbidden from taking pictures of the Verrazano Bridge,
there should be a whole photo album of that kind of stuff.
We just need to challenge.
Every time we're told that we can't do something that we believe we should be able to do,
more people do it than ever before.
That's part of the power of the net.
Good thing.
All right.
Now there's something else going on that's just kind of disturbing
having to do with domains being taken away.
Do you have this, Mike?
Yeah.
This is a story that was in the New York Times yesterday.
It's about this guy, Steve Marshall, who's an English guy living in Spain.
And I don't know if he's ever been to the United States,
but he certainly doesn't have any business here.
Sounds legitimate to me.
I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
What he does is he sells trips.
He's a travel agent.
And among the places he sells trips to is Cuba.
Okay.
So that's his big offense.
He sells trips to Cuba from Europe to Europeans.
Which is perfectly legal under European law.
It is perfectly legal, isn't it?
There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
In fact, his only business interest in the United States
is that his domain registrar is in the United States.
So his domain registrar is in the United States.
Which domain registrar is this?
It's not the same one.
Enom.
This one is called.
I guess the lesson we're learning here is don't register your domain
in the United States if you don't want trouble.
I mean, other countries have crazy laws, too.
So what happened to his domain?
They got taken away because he got put on something called
the specially designated nationals list,
which is something that the U.S. Treasury Department maintains
that even though this guy is not himself Cuban,
U.S. companies are forbidden from doing business with him
because he does too much business with Cuba.
Oh, that's beautiful.
This is part of the Office of Foreign Assets Control.
Go ahead, Barney.
I think the issue is, though, the crux of the matter,
is that he was not doing business in the United States.
He's not an American citizen.
His business is not located in the United States.
Only his domain registrar was.
So I think the point the U.S. government made was that this registrar,
this American registrar, was indirectly doing business with Cuba
simply by maintaining the domain for this company.
So they're guilty.
It's really ludicrous.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
I think that was a legal argument that the U.S. used,
or at least the excuse they used to shut down all this guy's domains.
Wait, wouldn't that be the excuse to use to shut down the registrar?
Well, they didn't shut down the whole registrar.
They instructed the registrar to pull those domains.
Isn't that what happened, Mike?
That's more or less what happened.
A prominent lawyer in New York said,
quote,
The U.S. can certainly criminalize the expenditure of money by U.S. citizens in Cuba,
but it doesn't properly have any jurisdiction over foreign sites
that are not targeted at the U.S. and which are lawful under foreign law.
The prominent lawyer in New York is Charles Sims,
who is familiar to you, Emanuel.
Oh, yeah.
In fact, he was one of the people suing us.
This is the thing.
You see the same people that face off against you in court
sometimes standing on the right side,
standing up for First Amendment issues,
standing up for something you agree with,
and at the same time, and I'm not going to name names,
sometimes you see the people that represent you
standing in a situation that you find absolutely appalling.
That's just the way the legal world works.
You defend people who seem indefensible.
You stand up for things you don't necessarily believe in.
That's one of the reasons why I'm not in the legal world.
That's very interesting.
This list of specially designated nationals
is apparently sort of like the no-fly list
in that no one knows how you get on it or how you get off it
or very much about it.
Some of the domains in question are,
and we'll just eliminate the www
because it's silly to keep saying www over and over again.
In fact, I'm surprised here in 2008 we still say www.
That should be something a lot shorter than www,
like maybe just one w, maybe no w's.
Why do we need it?
World Wide Web.
We know it's the World Wide Web.
What else could you possibly type there?
You've just spent far longer than any amount of w's.
It's a one-time investment in the discussion
to eliminate www once and for all.
I'm just saying.
It takes time to say.
You stumble over it.
All that time wasted.
So we're going to not say the www for all these domains.
Cuba-HavanaCity.com
and CiaoCuba.com, C-I-A-O-C-U-B-A.com
and also BonjourCuba.com.
Now keep in mind that might not work without the www.
You might have to put the www in there,
but I'm saying I didn't say it because...
Well, right now it doesn't work at all
because they took the domains away,
but also if you type .net instead of .com for those sites,
the guy owning them, Mr. Marshall,
said that he put them on a European registrar with .net,
so those should work as well.
And also not shut down for no known reason
is Cuba-Guantanamo.com.
You can still go there.
Really? Okay.
Well, it's a dangerous world out there on the Internet,
so you've got to be careful.
You're a bunch of commies.
All right.
You know, Emanuel,
this seems like a great business opportunity for some company,
not owned by an American,
to set up a domain registrar in a country
that doesn't necessarily have a do-whatever-you-want attitude
towards the United States,
do-whatever-the-U.S. wants attitude.
I would be happy to register some of my domains
with a company that would not buckle to the request
of the U.S. government agency or U.S. government court
just because they said so.
Right, right.
We should probably try to find out
what registrars around the world are least likely to buckle
and have this chilling effect on free speech.
I would imagine maybe ones in Russia,
though they might have their own issues,
and certainly if you can find a registrar in Cuba,
that would work.
Probably wouldn't be able to connect to it, though.
Well, but I don't think there could be a registrar in Cuba
because they would have to do business with ICANN,
which is forbidden.
They can't do business with ICANN, but there has to be.
There's .cu.
There's .cu, but not .com in Cuba.
Okay, yeah, that's true.
Okay, moving on.
This just happened.
Actually, Redbird, this affects you.
This past Saturday, March 1st,
New Jersey's revised cell phone law went into effect,
and apparently if you talk on a handheld cell phone,
you get a ticket.
It includes all kinds of electronic communication devices,
which includes CBs and FRS and various things like that.
However, amateur radio is excluded.
There is a very specific clause.
I mean, it's very obvious that amateur radio is excluded
if you read the law, and I think that's...
Why is amateur radio...
Why do they get to go around holding things
that are exactly the same as cell phones,
except it's amateur radio, so all of a sudden that's okay?
I mean, keep in mind, I'm against it, period,
but why special treatment for amateur radio?
Well, I don't know what the proper way to defend this is,
but it seems to me that it's not as distracting
as talking on a cell phone,
partially because most of the conversations
that you have over the amateur radio frequencies,
if you're identified as a mobile station,
it's understood that you may not get to reply as quickly
as other stations who are fixed or whatever.
Anyway, it's just a lot easier to say,
you know, hold on, or whatever.
It's understood that you may not be able to talk as much.
You really think that's the rationale behind it?
Okay, so the rationale behind the law is most...
I think that may be a reason why it makes it safer,
but the rationale behind the law is that it can be used
for emergency communications.
Well, I mean, does anybody get a ticket for dialing 911
to report an accident because they use a cell phone to do it?
I don't think that's it.
I think it's because of the lobby of the amateur radio people,
which, you know, my hat's off to them
for actually having that kind of influence,
but I don't think it's fair to the rest of the people.
I mean, yeah, there's a lot of idiots out there
who don't know how to drive and do something else
at the same time, whether it's talking to a passenger
or talking on a cell phone or, you know, eating a burger
or whatever it is they do when they're driving.
There's another exception, Emmanuel.
There's another exception in this law for two-way radio,
so the cops in their cars can talk on the two-way radio.
Well, I didn't think they'd get tickets.
Cops and firefighters...
But if you notice, almost every law has an exemption
for law enforcement, and this does not apply
to law enforcement officials.
Yeah, like shooting people is an exemption for that.
It has all kinds of exemptions, that's true.
They also cover cell phones for cops and firefighters.
There is definitely a... Redbird is correct.
There is a public safety nexus for amateur radio.
Amateur radio was specifically designed,
besides to advance the radio art,
back in the day when it was a new technology,
and, in fact, Ham still continues to develop
a lot of new radio technologies prior to industry.
But there is a public safety reason for existence
for amateur radio.
Like down in Louisiana,
when Hurricane Katrina came through,
Ham radio was really the only communications link
to the outside world.
That's all fine and good, but we're talking about
people driving in their cars, holding phones,
and the equivalent.
I've heard a lot of amateur radio conversations
as I'm tuning on the radio, which is legal, by the way,
and most of it isn't to help the public.
It's not for public service, just like most
of cell phone conversations aren't,
or are not exempt.
It just seems like it's just kind of not fair.
Mike?
Maybe the thinking is that the Ham radio conversations
are not really compelling enough to distract people.
Yeah, I guess if you've listened to them.
That's probably true, too.
Speaking of cell phones, I was on the Long Island Railroad,
and to help pass the time,
I picked up those little newsletters called Train Talk
that they leave in the seats.
It's a publication for MTA, Long Island Railroad customers.
Usually it's basically focusing on,
well, we're sorry about last month,
and we'll try to do better next month.
This one, though, had a little interesting piece
called Cell Phones for Train Crews.
Listen to this.
This is exciting news.
As part of an ongoing effort to improve communications
with customers during service disruptions,
your train crews will be receiving cell phones
with text messaging capabilities.
Wow.
Isn't that amazing?
They are moving right into the 1990s, aren't they?
We plan to have the cell phones in the field and operational
for more than 1,000 train personnel by April,
but in the meantime, 20 of the phones
have been deployed as a test.
That's really funny.
Oh, my God, 20.
Do you think that's too much, maybe?
You don't want to overwhelm the Long Island Railroad here.
20 cell phones with text messaging.
Oh, my God.
I don't know about the Long Island Railroad,
but when I take Amtrak,
there's often no cell service for, like, half my trip.
Did they consider this?
I'm sure they didn't, knowing that.
It's mostly above ground, right, the Long Island Railroad?
Yeah.
That's true.
But, you know, I was driving in today,
and I'll admit it, I was talking to my cell phone
as I was driving in.
People call me.
I have to answer.
Criminal.
Yeah.
And I'm losing signal in Queens,
on a major highway in Queens.
I mean, there are so many gaps.
If you had amateur radio.
Yeah, that's true.
That's another point.
Amateur radio, you don't lose signal nearly as much.
I'll consider that.
Okay, what else do we have going on?
This I just saw.
This is kind of weird.
A person using Denver International Airport's
free Wi-Fi service cannot visit Internet sites
that airport officials consider provocative.
I'll bet we're on that list.
A report in the Denver Post
says the airport is blocking, get this,
Vanity Fair Magazine's website.
Yeah, and also they're blocking
boingboing.net and various other sites.
I'd love to know if we're on there.
I'm sure we are.
The important thing to remember
is not the airport officials
who consider these sites provocative.
It's the sensorware vendor
who's considering these sites provocative,
and even more likely the sensorware vendor's
automated computer.
Well, according to airport spokesman Chuck Cannon,
he says airport officials decided to block access
to potentially racy sites
when the airport made its wireless Internet service
free in November.
He says the airport would rather deal with
infrequent complaints about access
that can get ignored pretty easily
than handle angry parents
whose children might see pornography.
It's all about the children.
Don't forget that.
Apparently the airport is using the same technology
used by repressive regimes
in the Sudan and Kuwait.
I'm not sure why they picked those two countries,
but interesting.
This is not an uncommon thing
in free wireless providers.
That's true.
So why is this coming up now?
I guess somebody made a big stink about it.
It's incredible to me
that that's actually the rationale, though,
that they don't want children to see
racy sites or whatever.
But how do you argue with that?
How do you argue with that sentiment?
If you disagree with this guy,
then you afford pornography for children.
Well, no.
I mean, that's not the point.
How do you justify yourself
by standing up for that kind of thing?
You don't justify the behavior.
You justify it based on the fact
that they have access to it
anywhere they go.
So two wrongs make a right.
You know?
You see how it works?
Yeah, no, I see exactly
what you're saying, though.
I'd like to know
how many sites like that exist,
how many areas like that exist
that block sites like Vanity Fair
and Boing Boing.
I mean, reading pornography in public
is not really my thing,
but there are other ways to do it.
Yeah, that's true.
It is your thing.
Yeah, they sell those.
In fact, most of the news stands.
They sell those magazines there,
don't they?
That's true.
Okay, what else is going on?
Germany's highest court
has restricted the right
of the security services
to spy on the computers
of suspected criminals and terrorists.
Under the technique,
software sent in an email
enables the authorities
to spy on a suspect's computer hard drive.
The federal constitutional court
said cyber spying
violated individuals' rights to privacy
and could be used
only in exceptional cases.
Civil liberties activists
had warned of an unacceptable
invasion of privacy.
Why can't we pass a law like this?
Because we're not German.
But we're American.
Yeah, that's true.
To be fair, the German parliament
did pass a law enabling this spying,
and it's only the court that blocked it.
Yeah, and we could use that court
to pass some laws,
or I guess turn down some laws over here.
Can you borrow courts like that?
Maybe. Yes, Bernie?
It's worth noting
that even if such a law were passed
in this country,
various law enforcement
and intelligence agencies
would flagrantly flout the law
and just ignore it,
like our own NSA and FBI
and other law enforcement agencies
routinely violate these privacy laws.
With the help of telephone companies
who later get exempted.
Exactly.
That's what this whole
immunity thing is about.
It hasn't happened yet, though.
It has not happened yet.
That particular...
What is it?
The 19...
I'm sorry, the 2007
Protect America Act or something?
Is that what it is?
They always put these flowery names on it.
Yeah, but it's still...
It has not been extended,
so it's in limbo,
which is a good thing.
But there have been
all these commercials on television
about how right now
we can't monitor terrorists
because Congress refuses to act.
It's this conservative think tank
that's sponsoring all of this
and really kind of scaring people.
So don't believe what you hear.
Not necessarily true.
Interior Minister Wolfgang Schauble,
who is the target
of the Stasi 2.0 campaign
that maybe some of our audience has seen,
he welcomes the possibility
of using this strategy
of spying on users.
Oh, I'm sure.
Well, it's more than just spying.
It's actually injecting their computers
with malware, I guess,
is the best way to say it.
Sure.
All right.
Over in this country,
FBI Director Robert...
Did I say Mueller?
Mueller?
I don't know.
It's M-U-E-L-L-E-R.
I think it's...
How would you say that, Bernie?
I think it's pronounced Mueller.
Mueller.
Okay, that's what I thought.
Okay.
Anyway, apologies.
Robert Mueller says,
an upcoming Justice Department report
will show the Bureau
improperly used national security letters
to obtain personal data on Americans
during terror and spy investigations.
Yes, I'm not kidding.
It's actually the FBI Director saying
an upcoming Justice Department report
is going to show that they improperly
use those national security letters.
Those are really frightening letters,
by the way.
If you ever get one,
you're not allowed to talk about it ever,
and you have to give all the information
about whoever they're asking about.
Now, what's the catch?
He says,
yes, we messed up,
but only up until 2006,
and after 2006,
we enacted sweeping new reforms
to prevent this from happening in the future.
So everything's cool now,
but look how bad it was before.
Yeah, this is how they work.
So get ready for that.
That report's coming out.
So do they explain in this report
what other tools they found to abuse instead?
No, it's a very short story, actually.
But the report found
that over a three-year period,
the FBI had demanded personal data
on people from banks,
telephone and internet providers,
and credit bureaus
without official authorization
and in non-emergency circumstances.
I guess they were just curious.
Okay, and this is an interesting story.
Pakistan has rejected claims
that it was responsible
for blocking global access
to the YouTube video clip site.
You guys might have heard about that.
YouTube was hard to reach this week
following action by Pakistan
to block access inside its borders
for its hosting of a blasphemous video clip.
Analysis suggests the block
was taken up by net hardware
that routes data
effectively cutting off the site.
A spokeswoman
for Pakistan's telecoms authority
said the problem was caused
by a malfunction elsewhere.
Get this quote from Shahzada Alam Malik,
the head of the Pakistan
Telecommunication Authority.
She said to the Associated Press,
We are not hackers.
Why would we do that?
Why is YouTube being routed
through Pakistan?
No, this is for Pakistani users.
Oh, for Pakistan.
Yes, all of YouTube
is not routed through Pakistan.
But yeah, we are not hackers.
We are not hackers.
Why would we do such a thing?
The answer is because
they're government censors.
Yeah.
And because hackers
don't do that kind of thing.
Hackers figure out ways
to route around
the government censors.
Okay, what else?
A lot of catching up to do.
This is interesting.
You know, of course,
digital television is coming.
It's coming.
Well, I mean,
it's coming down our throats.
You know, I never got my voucher.
I never got one either.
I applied for my voucher.
I never got it.
Well, next year,
next February 2009,
you're going to have to have
digital television
or you won't be able
to watch TV anymore.
Except for cable.
If you have digital cable,
if you have a satellite.
No, no, no, no.
Regular cable works.
Regular cable will not be affected.
Will there even be regular cable then?
Yeah, sure.
All right.
So if you have cable,
if you have satellite,
then you're not affected.
But if you don't,
then you have to get
one of these vouchers.
Does anyone have the email
or the website address for that?
I'm going to give people a website
that doesn't do anything?
Well, actually, I was accepted.
I gave a different address this time.
You were accepted,
but did you actually get the mail?
I've been accepted.
No, but I know somebody who did.
I forget who they were,
but somebody got their actual voucher.
All right.
So at least one person
somewhere in America
has indeed received their voucher.
That's good.
Yeah.
It does happen occasionally.
Now, this is a voucher
to get a converter box
to convert your television set
to digital.
Well, it's a $40 voucher.
The digital converter box
probably won't be as cheap as $40.
It'll probably be between $50 and $60.
But it will largely subsidize
the cost of up to two
digital television receiver
converter boxes per household.
Okay.
Yeah, and anyway,
the story here is
Hispanics are nearly twice as likely
as whites to be left
without television service
following the nationwide transition
to digital broadcasting next year.
That's according to a new survey.
Now, as we mentioned,
beginning in February 2009,
full-power broadcast stations
will transmit digital-only signals,
meaning people who get
their television programming
over an antenna
and do not have a digital set
won't get a picture
without a special converter box.
The Nielsen survey released on Friday
estimates that more than
13 million households in the U.S.
receive television programming
over the air on non-digital sets,
meaning they will need converter boxes.
Another 6 million households
contain at least one television set
that fits that description.
And basically, the researchers found
that 10.1% of all households
would have no access
to television signals
if the transition occurred today.
Broken down by race,
8.8% of whites would be unready,
11.7% of Asians,
12.4% of blacks,
and 17.3% of Hispanics.
And by age,
if you are interested in that,
those 35 and younger, 12.3%,
55 and older, 9.4%.
So actually more younger people.
You know, as much as I hate,
this is a side note,
as much as I hate the analog
or the removal of the analog stations,
I gotta say,
there are some really neat PC receivers
for the digital television,
for the ATSC stations,
and it is incredible
the amount of bandwidth
that they're pushing over the air
for like, you know,
1080i reception and stuff like that.
I mean, it looks really great,
you know, on your PC, but.
So now you have to have a computer
to watch television.
Well.
I just, I don't know.
I just think that there's gonna,
this is gonna be a train wreck
that, you know,
less than a year from now,
there's gonna be millions of people
who won't be able to get television anymore.
Oh, I don't disagree.
And while it's not necessarily a bad thing,
they're gonna be screaming mad.
And just this past few days,
FCC Commissioner Cox,
this is his last name, C-O-P-P-S,
he's probably one of the best FCC commissioners,
he argued that this is gonna be a train wreck
and we need to start doing some testing now
to see where people are gonna
not be able to receive
digital television.
Because there's a lot of communities
where they can receive analog,
but the range of the digital stations
is much less.
So, you don't get a snowy picture,
like a weak picture you can sort of tolerate
when digital television is weak.
It just dropped off completely.
Yeah, it's gonna be
madness and mayhem February 2009.
You know, all the blame is gonna fall
on President Obama.
Kevin, not Kevin, sorry.
Well, I think this is
Kevin, you sit down, not Kevin, go ahead.
I think this is a great thing, I hope.
It is a complete train wreck
because then more people
might actually go outside.
That would be nice, that would be nice.
Yeah.
They could listen to radio, WBAN.
That's true, radio's not going anywhere.
I mean, radio's not changing,
we're going places for sure.
I found the website, www,
I did it again, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry for saying that again,
DTV2009.gov, DTV2009.gov.
Now, just to add to Bernie's point,
there are contour maps
that you can look up online
and I don't remember specifically
the source for them,
but there are contour maps
that show the digital television
reception areas
and like marginal reception areas
and whatnot,
but there have been
a number of research studies
that have actually taken samples
and shown that it's nowhere
near the prediction.
I mean, the prediction models
that they use for these
contour service maps
were just terrible
and it's actually a real problem
that people who are able
to receive analog television now
aren't gonna get anything
with the digital television receiver, so.
All right.
Well, we promise we take phone calls.
Our phone number,
212-209-2900.
Please start calling us
and we'll take phone calls
as soon as those lights
start lighting up.
I guess we hit a milestone
over the last few weeks
when we weren't on the air
when we were doing fundraising,
but the United States
now imprisons one in 100 adults.
What do you think of that, Bernie?
It's actually slightly more than that.
It's like one out of 99 adults
is now in prison.
So the United States
now is the world leader,
as in many things,
the world leader
in incarcerating its own citizens.
Do you think Americans
are just generally badder people
or is there something else going on?
Well, we're pretty bad.
You know, we flout the law all the time.
As I mentioned,
I talked on my cell phone
on the way into the city
while I was driving in my car,
so there's that.
I'm sure other people
are doing worse things.
We should be clear
that what happened over recently
is not that all these Americans
suddenly got locked up.
It's that someone finally bothered
to count and do a study.
So this has been going on
for at least some time
and now we know for sure
that it is indeed 1% of American adults
are in prison.
And 1 in 15 adult black men
is in prison?
Or 1 in 9 black men
ages 20 to 34.
1 in 36 adult Hispanic men.
It's simply incredible.
And the total prison population,
it grew by 25,000 last year,
bringing it to almost 1.6 million
after three decades of growth.
And in addition to that,
another 723,000 people
are in local jails.
So that's a sizable...
We only have, what,
a couple hundred million people
in this country?
And crime was down.
I mean, especially violent crime.
And they're going to say
that's why crime is down,
because all these people
are locked away.
Well, that's sort of silly,
but okay.
I know.
But that's the same logic
that makes it so that
President Bush
has been protecting us.
And that's why
there hasn't been another 9-11.
All right.
Enough of that.
212-209-2900.
Is the phone broken?
The opportunity for another 9-11
only comes around once a year.
That's a good point.
I'll bring that up
next time somebody says that.
Okay.
Let's see what we got here.
Let's read a couple of letters.
We have gotten a lot of letters
to OTH at 2600.com.
And we have not been able
to catch up to quite a few
of them, actually.
I was listening to your latest show,
January 10th.
You can see how out of date we are.
I heard you shout out
to other hack radio shows.
I do a show on one of
Olympia Washington's
pirate radio stations,
Free Radio Olympia,
98.5 FM,
or www.frolympia.org,
freeradioolympia.org,
for the stream.
I don't do a hacker show, per se,
as I mostly play music.
But whenever I discover
a new hack,
whether techno or societal,
I like to share it
with my listeners.
I've read your magazine before.
Hope you don't mind,
but we are pirate,
and I promoted your magazine
and website.
Yeah, we take a very strict view
about pirate radio stations
promoting us.
We insist upon it.
Anyway, I admit I was waiting
for the FCC to kick in our door
and my teeth after I read
the article on the air
about Target's Wi-Fi network.
I get the Off the Hook show
on our station.
I put the Off the Hook show
on our station,
and I hope that's also okay.
Signed, well, I can't read
your name on the air
because it contains an obscenity,
but I'll just say DJ.
Yes, we definitely encourage people
to do just that,
to take our show,
take it off the internet.
You can even get
a high-fidelity version
for a couple of weeks
after it goes up,
and download that,
play that on your radio station
for sure.
Just make sure you're not
kicking somebody local off
to do that.
This is a good thing to do
when you have nobody
to fill the time.
And if you're listening to us
on a pirate radio station,
on a pirate radio station somewhere,
or if you listen to us
on the station
from Olympia, Washington,
we'd like to hear from you.
O-T-H at 2600.com.
Right now we'd like to hear
from people 212-209-2900.
See who's out there.
We have a few calls.
All right.
Hopefully we won't get
a dial tone.
Good evening.
You're on Off the Hook.
Oh, yes, hi.
Where can we buy the magazine?
I'm a new listener.
Where can you buy the magazine?
Well, basically,
most of the,
you're in the United States?
Oh, yeah,
in Manhattan.
Okay.
The chain bookstores,
chain bookstore?
Yeah, you know,
the chain bookstore.
I don't want to mention them by name,
but you know what they are.
They're the ones that have
like 1,000 stores
around the country.
And also in New York,
a lot of the local bookstores as well.
In fact, practically all
the local bookstores.
You'll be able to find this
there as well.
And your website is 2600 at?
2600.com.
.com.
And you can put the W's
in front of it if you want.
Right.
All right?
2600.com.
And what do you think
of this new television thing?
Because you were mentioning
it a few minutes ago.
But the percentages of people
that won't be able to get,
they're going to do away
with analog.
Yeah, well, you know,
it's, to me,
I wonder why,
of all the things
to upgrade in this country,
why focus so much attention
on that?
On the television.
Yeah.
Why not?
Why not upgrade our rail system?
Why not upgrade the roads,
which are atrocious?
Why not build more schools?
I don't know.
There's too many things
we could be doing
instead of making TV digital
because it's still going
to be crap
and it's just going to be
looking nicer,
but it's still going to be
nonsense.
I was going to say,
if they must upgrade television,
the least they could do
was upgrade the content.
How do you do that exactly?
Thanks for that call.
Let's go down here now.
Good evening.
You're on Off the Hook.
Go ahead.
Oh.
Yes.
What's on your mind?
What's your objection
to having one
out of 100 Americans
incarcerated?
Maybe they deserve it.
You really believe that?
I mean,
do you see a lot of people
out there committing crimes
or do you really think
that many people are bad?
Both.
Okay.
Well,
give me some
background on that.
Well,
look at the illegal
immigrant population.
All of them should be
incarcerated
until they're deported
and then you just have
so many other people
who are doing things
that are illegal
and should be illegal.
So I don't have
any objection to it at all.
I don't see why anybody would.
Like what kinds of things
are you referring to?
Are you referring to
just violent crimes
or are you referring to
just jaywalking?
What?
Well,
not so much the jaywalking.
You know,
let's not get carried away.
But anybody driving a smart car,
we can start with that.
Thank you.
Thank you so much for that.
You just made my day.
Okay.
Well,
you know,
it's important.
With over two million people
incarcerated in this country
that we not get carried away.
Yeah,
that's an important thing
to remember.
What were the...
Did it say whether or not
they were citizens?
Of course,
yeah.
This is just people
who are citizens
of the country.
I don't think we're...
I mean,
we're locking people
who aren't citizens
of the country
in Guantanamo Bay.
So,
we have standards
for where we put people.
Good evening.
You're on Off the Hook.
Yeah,
I think we should lock up
the rich, actually.
I think the ruling class
and all the cops
and the FBI
and those that serve
Wall Street,
they really deserve
to be in jail.
Well,
you know,
we're on Wall Street.
You know that, right?
Yes, I know.
I've been down there.
I've been on Bob Fass' shows.
So,
yeah, I know.
How about Wall Street
west of Water Street?
How about that?
Oh, it is.
You're right about that.
Okay.
I'm personally...
You know,
my big bug up
my butt is
when I hook my
TV set up
to my DVD player,
which is brand new,
I get snow
all over my screen.
And, like,
I don't know how...
I go through
incredible changes
trying to
get rid of it now.
Wait, wait, wait.
You get no signal at all
if you hook your DVD player
up to your TV set?
I get a signal.
But,
you know,
it comes through
with a picture.
But the picture
is covered with,
like,
I guess,
for lack of a better term,
snow.
Uh-huh.
And do you see a picture
at all?
Yes.
Okay.
So it's just basically
a bad picture you're seeing.
Yeah.
I don't know if it's my TV
or the DVD player.
I think it might be the cable.
Have you tried
swapping it out?
No.
Use a different cable.
Just try everything
twice.
Yeah,
it could be a connection
inside either the DVD player
or the TV set.
If you've been able to
connect something else
to the TV set,
if the DVD player
takes it to a friend's house,
if you can connect that
to their TV set,
then, you know,
it's not the DVD player.
You've just got to
eliminate all the possibilities.
Okay.
All right.
Good luck.
Hopefully you'll be able
to watch digital television
when it comes out.
Good evening.
You're on Off the Hook.
Yes.
What's on your mind?
I just wanted to tell you
why hams are exempt in Jersey.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Well,
okay,
we're on the air.
Yes, you're on the air
and you're on delay.
Well,
the reason is
that the ham license
is a federal license
and it supersedes
anything the city
and state
may want to license.
Interesting.
That's a good point.
Yeah.
And a federal license
would supersede that,
I suppose.
It's one of the reasons
why I became a ham
so I could listen
to the cops in the car
on a ham radio
and not have to be
bothering with
the scanner permit.
That's true.
Yeah.
That's another good point.
But also,
in relation to that,
I think there's something
you guys may want
to talk about.
Yeah.
Well,
the PD auto crime squad
slowly moving
through the neighborhood,
it looked like
they had
two small
spotlight
things
hooked to the trunk
that were sort of aimed
as they were driving by,
they'd be aimed
at the license plate.
Oh, yes.
They may be using
some license plate reader.
I don't know
if you guys
are aware of that.
Well,
we know that exists.
I have not yet seen
them doing that,
but about how fast
were they going?
Slow enough that,
they're coming down
the street typing
into some wireless thing
with no hands
on the wheel.
I was getting into
fights with them
because they take
their picture
and they get all
bent out of shape.
But, you know,
they were going
about that fast.
So, you know,
slow enough that
you knew that
if you thought
they were trying
to read something,
that's what it looked like.
I'm actually starting
to see a lot more
of these license plate
readers all up
and down the East Coast.
Yeah.
Well, I took a picture
and if I can find it,
I'll send it over to you.
All it looks like is,
have you ever seen
those lamps
that imitate
like a Klieg light
that you have
on your desk?
Like a black cylinder
the size of a beer can?
Okay, I think so.
And I don't know
if you know
what a trunk mount
antenna is.
You know,
on the lip,
it would be mounted
there with two wires,
obviously a temporary
hookup,
and they'd be
pointing forwards
at a 45 degree
angle down.
So if you were like
aiming a flashlight
off the trunk
of a Klieg light,
that's how it was aimed.
Ooh, Morse code.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, all right,
let's not put that
over the edge.
You know who I am.
Some of you guys
actually can do that
by ear.
Now I'm sure people
are already gathering
to figure that out.
Well, the guys
who can do that,
they recognize my voice.
They know who I am.
Now, as far as
these license plate
readers, though,
I was under the impression
they could go much faster,
like highway speed,
and still be able
to grab every
pass.
I have no information
on that.
I don't know if
this was an arrest
in connection with
them driving along
and reading the plate
and finding out
it was a stolen car.
But before I got there,
they turned the corner
and came towards me,
so I couldn't see
what actually went on there.
But I know there
were the police
because that's where
they were coming from.
And as they left,
they went slow enough
that it looked like
they were reading the plates.
But how fast
they can go with that,
I don't know.
All I'm actually
calling and telling you,
I've seen an undercover
police car with some
strange stuff on the trunk
that I haven't seen before,
and I know all the antennas
and all of that.
So...
When we first talked about this
a few months back,
I remember having
a statistic of like
1,000 plates a minute
or some ridiculously
high number like that.
Yeah.
So you could do that
from an airplane, I guess,
and get everything.
It's scary,
but thanks for letting us know.
Okay.
No problem.
Anytime.
That's what we depend on
is our listeners
keeping their eyes open.
212-209-2900
is our phone number.
Well, I mean,
cops are always driving
around really slowly,
so they could have been
doing something else
but you can't expect
them to always be focusing
on the job at hand.
They're thinking about
whether they're going to buy
milk on the way home
and who won the ball game today
and various things like that.
It's a good thing
they're not doing that
while they're speeding.
Okay.
Let's take another phone call.
212-209-2900.
Do you have something,
Matt Kevin?
Just about the cameras.
Again,
they're not always rear-mounted.
I've seen several versions
of them on top of the car.
Next time you see
one of these,
let me know
because I've yet to see one.
They're all over the place.
Are they really?
Okay.
We're going to go out
to the next call.
Emanuel?
Yes, go ahead.
This brings up
an interesting opportunity
for spoofing these things.
While someone could find out
some wanted license plates
of some really,
really bad people
that they're looking for,
like somebody on the terrorist
watch list or something,
if they have license plates,
to just make facsimiles
of these,
just make fake versions
of these license plates,
which would not be illegal
unless you put them
on a vehicle.
But if you tack them
onto,
let's say,
a car,
and you put them
on a vehicle,
and you put them
on a vehicle
and you put them
onto utility poles
or sort of
at the same angle
that these license cameras
would be scanning,
it would really
slow down the police a lot
because it would be
grabbing all these
fake plates
that belong
to really bad,
the number belong
to really bad people.
I think we should try
to experiment with that
and I don't think
it would be illegal.
I nominate you
as the head
of that committee
to explore
that particular project.
It sounds like
a whole lot of fun
for everybody.
Let's take a look
at the other
questions.
Let's take a phone call.
And good evening.
You're on Off the Hook.
Hey, how's it going?
How you doing?
I'm just curious.
With all the,
with the switch,
the television switch
to digital,
what's going to happen
to all the
analog equipment
and is this an opportunity
for people to
start like pirate
television stations?
Well, interesting.
Those frequencies
are going to be occupied
by other services
at that point.
But what are you going
to see on your old TV set?
Are you going to see
something like
the equivalent of,
say, cell phone calls
on channel 83?
Well, you're not going
to be able to demodulate
anything with your television set.
You might see
stranger looking noise,
but depending on
the modulation scheme
that the transmitters
are using.
Right.
But the analog equipment
is still going to work
if you have cable.
So it's not a matter of...
Is analog equipment
in terms of broadcasting?
Oh, in terms of broadcasting?
Yeah, I have no idea.
You know, I would like
if they would extend
the FM band below 88,
which they could do
because they're freeing up
the analog signal,
which is channel 6
at, I think, 87.7
or something like that.
They could go
all the way down to,
say, I don't know,
85 or 84,
and that would open up
the spectrum
to a lot more outlets.
But instead,
I don't know.
I think they're going
to give it to some
government wireless service.
But put pressure
on the FCC to do that.
Maybe there's still time.
Yeah.
Thanks for your call.
All right.
Thanks.
And let's go
and take another one.
How about over here?
Good evening.
You're on Off the Hook.
Yeah, I have
a simple question.
Go ahead.
I have a...
I bought a new Dell computer
like two months ago,
and it's running Vista,
of course.
All right.
Let me stop you right there.
Are you sure this is not
a question for
The Personal Computer Show?
Yeah, it's for
The Personal Computer Show.
Okay.
That's on in 10 minutes.
Oh.
So call up after 8 o'clock,
and you can ask questions
about your computers then.
Thanks for that call.
Let's take another one.
Good evening.
You're on Off the Hook.
Hey, Manuel.
How are you?
How are you doing?
Where are you calling from?
I'm actually calling
from Jersey.
Wow.
You sound pretty far away.
I'm using voice over IP.
That's why.
Ah.
Well, it shows.
Okay.
What's on your mind?
As I was setting up
my brand-new
digital converter box,
I was listening to the show,
and it seems like
I got 17 stations
down in Central New Jersey.
But the one station
I couldn't get
is the one
that I really wanted,
which was the
public radio station
down in New York,
WNET.
I've got no signal there.
Really?
You're talking about television?
Television, yes.
That's interesting.
Well, actually,
aren't they from Newark?
Don't they broadcast
from Newark?
They may have been broadcasting
off the World Trade Center,
but I don't know
what they're doing right now.
But I just thought
it was interesting
that I'm going through there
and the one channel
I wanted
that is not showing up.
What kind of antenna
are you using
just out of curiosity?
I'm actually using
I would call it
one of the old-fashioned
roof antennas,
but it's in my attic.
Okay.
So, I mean,
it's getting a decent
enough signal.
Yeah, you're in a better position
than most people
to receive that sort of thing.
Because I was anticipating
this coming down the road,
so that's why
I put it up in the attic.
I have a suggestion.
Go ahead, Bernie.
The suggestion is
your old TV antennas
are not
for the resonant frequency
of the new
digital radio frequencies.
You really need
to get an antenna
that's designed
for these new
digital television frequencies.
It's a much higher frequency.
Your old TV antenna
won't work as well.
The UHF frequencies
are very similar.
I think they range
from, like,
500 to 700 megahertz-ish,
right?
Yeah.
So, I think
that's a good idea.
Yeah.
I mean,
I think they're...
I don't actually know
what the new television frequencies are,
but I know they're higher
in frequency
than the older ones.
So, that might be the issue.
You might just
check out your antenna, too.
Check the connections
on your feed line
between your antenna
and your TV.
That could help a lot, too.
But were you able
to receive this
public television station
in analog format,
and now you can't get it
in digital?
Is that the problem?
Yes, that is correct.
And that channel
is actually one
of the better
recepting channels.
It was able to get
that much clearer
than most...
Like, I'm able to get
channel 2,
the CBS channel,
which I can care less about.
But channel 13,
which is the one
I really want
and I got before,
I'm not getting now.
I would also contact them.
Maybe they're off the...
I mean, how long
has this been going on for?
Like I said,
I just plugged in
the converter box
about 20 minutes ago.
So, maybe there's
some kind of technical issue
on their end.
It can't hurt to ask.
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
All right.
Well, good luck with that.
Oh, thank you.
And just a quick comment.
I can hear you better
on the phone here
than if I were
listening over the air.
Just something
I'd throw at you.
Okay.
Well, then,
that's another reason
for people to call in.
They can hear Bernie better
if they call into the radio show
rather than just
listening on the air.
Thanks for that call.
Let's see if we can
grab another one.
And good evening.
You're on Off The Hook.
Yes.
I had a question.
It's computer-related,
but it's not for
the personal computer show
because it's more...
Okay.
Fair enough.
...computer-hacker related.
All right.
All right.
I don't know about...
I don't know about
Black Edition myself,
but what about it?
No, I just wanted
to know if that...
Well, if you don't
know about it,
I don't think...
Well, maybe...
Does anybody here
know about this?
Never heard of it.
All right.
Why is it of interest?
Well, it's, I guess,
a hacked version.
It has some additional
pieces in it
that were added.
There's XP Dark
and XP Black,
I think, version 8.
Well, I'm intrigued.
I mean, I'm fascinated
by this.
I'm sure if anyone
of our listeners
know about it,
we're going to get
all kinds of letters.
Yeah.
These are just
hacked versions of XP
that are being
mostly torrented.
Do they keep
the 2600 in it?
XP Build 2600?
Do we get at least
one letter a week
about that?
Hey, did you know
it's Build 2600 in XP?
And I don't know why,
I don't know how,
but yes, that's true.
Yes, there's a lot
of open software in it
and like OpenOffice
and a lot of neat apps
that are attached,
but before I went
and installed it
on my main box,
I wanted to make sure
and do a regular check
to see if there was
any danger of like
a virus infiltration
or the like.
Does anyone know anything?
Well, we'll certainly
get feedback on this
and we'll probably
read it in the weeks ahead.
Thanks for that info.
If you're using Windows,
there's almost certainly
some danger
of a virus infiltration.
That's also true as well.
All right, let's see
if we can fit in one more.
Good evening.
You're on Off The Hook.
Speak up.
Yes.
Yeah, you're there.
What's on your mind?
Hi, Emmanuel.
No, I just wanted
to respond.
At first, I got
a little bit
antsy because that guy
was talking about
he had no problems
with locking up
so many Americans
and then I realized
afterward he took
some of my steam off
when he said,
so he was being facetious
when he talked about
anybody who drives
the smart car.
But wait,
then I said,
wait a minute,
I'm still pissed off
at this guy
because I'm a typical
BAI listener.
I'm a progressive.
There's no such thing
as a typical BAI listener,
but yes,
I know what you're saying.
Fair, fair, fair.
I beg to differ.
Fair, fair, fair,
but I would still
like to guess
that the majority
of BAI listeners
tend to be
progressive liberals.
I think I'm,
when he said
the smart car,
I'm driving
a Honda Fit.
I was thinking
about buying
the smart car.
By the way,
you can now buy
the smart car.
I'm not going
to tell you how,
but if you go
to smart.com
and click on
the United States,
you'll see where
the nearest dealer
to you is.
No, I understand
that,
but then recently,
Consumer Report
did a show
because we're
pretty much
out of time now
and the personal
computer people
are literally
breathing down my neck,
so we're done
for tonight.
This reminder,
2600 meetings
taking place
all around the world
this Friday.
Go to 2600.com
slash meetings
for a list
of the ones
in your area.
For Off The Hook,
Emmanuel Goldstein,
have yourselves
a good night.
It has come
to my attention
about these new
light laws,
and it's my
concern
if we call
a cop around
or I'll go
in a jail
or a mental
home.
We have to
be careful
about who
we elect
cos what they
seem to not
know
amounts to
neglect.
We all need
the system
to sometimes
work for us.
Coming in
by ambulance
and commandeered
bus,
there's bills
to be paid
and criminal
bills.
They're only
there to
keep you
from
getting
your eyes
then
sent to
the back.
Do what
you're told
or get
the sack.
The system
doesn't
work for
us
and that
is a
fact.
The system
doesn't
work for
us
and we
should
take it
back.
As for
good causes
and if
it's not
a priority
it's
probably
too late
and all
the human
reservoirs
are trying
to get
alive.
Just a
little
rain would
do
instead
of so
much
strife.
There's
bills
to be
paid
and criminal
bills.
They're only
interested
in fitting
in
with
the
system.
The system
doesn't
work for
us
and yet
we
pay
our tax.
If the
system
doesn't
work for
us
then
we
should
take
it
back.
Don't
you think
there's
ample
time
to do
the
right
thing
in
the
right
way?
I
don't
think
there's
ample
time
to do
the
right
thing
in
the
right
way.
I
don't
think
there's
ample
time
to do
the
right
thing
in
the
right
way.
I
don't
think
there's
ample
time
to do
the
right
thing
in
the
right
way.
I
don't
think
there's
ample
time
to do
the
right
thing
in
the
right
way.
I
don't
think
there's
ample
time
to do
the
right
thing
in
the
right
way.
I
don't
think
there's
ample
time
to do
the
right
thing