1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:17,000 Now I can't make a call, it couldn't get much worse, but if they could they would, Bundy Lee Bumper the best, expect the worst, I hope that's understood, Bundy Lee Bumper! 2 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:37,000 Bundy Lee Bumper! 3 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:10,000 Bundy Lee Bumper! 4 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Bundy Lee Bumper! 5 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:13,000 You gotta learn, you gotta learn, you gotta learn how to dance this fast. 6 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:52,000 The internet is at our throats, and multinational corporations want a big piece of it now, but the people got there first. 7 00:02:52,000 --> 00:03:01,000 How's it all going to work, you know? If things were done a little bit differently, it wouldn't look like it does today, that's for sure. 8 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Now with the knowledge that we have, we can keep things in a rather democratic way, you know, everybody has the power of the individual. 9 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:22,000 Or we can turn things over and have it be like our telephone system, where you charge for every little thing. 10 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,000 Anything is possible, it's all up to us. 11 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:33,000 One thing I've learned is that we have an awful lot of power. 12 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:44,000 Well, throughout the two hours that we're on tonight, we're going to be going over some things that happened in the world of technology. 13 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:49,000 We're also going to be telling you the Fiber Optics story. 14 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:59,000 If you listened last week, you heard the last show with Fiber before he was sent to prison, and now he's there. 15 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,000 And we took him there, and it's quite a story. 16 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:07,000 So we'll be telling you all about that in the next hour or so. 17 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:20,000 And hopefully we'll be getting a lot of people calling in, showing their support to WBAI to keep us going for the next year or so, or however long it takes. 18 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:25,000 Our number is 212-279-3400, that's the number we need you to call for pledges. 19 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,000 We have a special offer for people listening to Off The Hook. 20 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:34,000 This is the only time we're going to be on during the marathon, so this offer only holds for tonight. 21 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,000 It's true. 22 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:47,000 And the offer is a subscription to 2600 Magazine for a pledge of $75, if you call at 212-279-3400. 23 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:53,000 It's not so much calling to get a subscription, it's calling to help out the radio station. 24 00:04:53,000 --> 00:05:06,000 It's calling to make sure that we're here and that we can continue to bring you important news events, important technological advances, and all kinds of things that you just wouldn't hear anyplace else. 25 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,000 No, you wouldn't. 26 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:13,000 And I challenge anybody to find another place that brings you this kind of information. 27 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:20,000 So, that's our phone number, and hopefully we'll get some people calling in fairly quickly. 28 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:33,000 Our grand total so far is zero, and we're going to be looking at that, hopefully not at that, but we're looking at the number that will be rapidly changing over the next two hours. 29 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:40,000 All right, time for us to take a look at what's been happening around the world. 30 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:46,000 And all kinds of neat things have been going on. 31 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:51,000 If you read the papers, if you play around with your phone, you'll learn stuff yourself. 32 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,000 Let's take a look. 33 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:59,000 This is from the Washington Post of December 26th. 34 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,000 Entitled, 1993, the year of the weird. 35 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:14,000 The Syracuse Herald Journal has reported that its telephone hotline featuring excerpts of the presidential debates last fall was successful, except for one glitch. 36 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:24,000 Ross Perot's voice sometimes hit a pitch that mimicked a certain telephone tone that automatically shut down the whole system. 37 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:28,000 The Washington Post, we're not kidding. 38 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,000 Imagine if he was president how many times that would be happening. 39 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:36,000 How about this? This comes from the Guardian of December 21st. 40 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:43,000 They report the conviction of a male nurse who hacked into a hospital's computer system and modified entries including prescriptions. 41 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:53,000 Now, it's kind of annoying here because they refer to the person throughout as a hacker, which any of us who are hackers ourselves know is completely bogus. 42 00:06:53,000 --> 00:07:02,000 They say the hacker prescribed drugs normally used to treat heart disease and high blood pressure to a nine-year-old with meningitis. 43 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:07,000 He prescribed antibiotics to a patient in a geriatric ward. 44 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,000 These drugs were administered to the patient with no apparent adverse reaction. 45 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:16,000 He scheduled an unnecessary x-ray for a patient. He recommended a discharge for another patient. 46 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:28,000 The hacker, in quotes, gained access to the computer system after learning the password by observing a doctor who was having trouble logging in. 47 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,000 This is the good part. He qualified as a nurse in 1989. 48 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:39,000 He is reported to have undergone a considerable personality change as the result of a road accident in 1984. 49 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,000 As well as developing a fascination for computers and other high-tech equipment, 50 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:51,000 he had apparently developed a, quote, lack of sensitivity to the consequences of his actions, unquote. 51 00:07:51,000 --> 00:08:00,000 It's the same thing that a lot of computer hackers are accused of having or not having, compassion and concern for the consequences of their actions. 52 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,000 But you won't find hackers doing these kinds of things. 53 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:11,000 You won't find hackers breaking into hospitals and changing dosages on computer systems, on patients. 54 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:18,000 You just won't find, because vast, vast majority of hackers have some sense of value. 55 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,000 There is a hacker community out there, and that sense of value is instilled there. 56 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:27,000 Look at this story. Who did this? Was it a hacker? No, it was a male nurse. 57 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,000 I mean, I guess his sex is kind of irrelevant, but he was a nurse. 58 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,000 A nurse that had access to the computer system. 59 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,000 No hacker. Just somebody with a grudge. 60 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,000 Somebody with inside information. 61 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,000 Somebody who knew how to work the system. Somebody, perhaps, who had contempt for his job. 62 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,000 That's what it boils down to. 63 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:57,000 Whenever you see a newspaper article like that, where they call such a person a hacker, call them up and give them a piece of your mind. 64 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:04,000 Anyway, he pleaded guilty to unauthorized modification of computer records. 65 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,000 He offered no explanation for his actions, but denied any malicious intent. 66 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,000 He was jailed for 12 months. 67 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,000 Now, don't you think that's kind of ironic? 68 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,000 This guy that could have killed somebody, literally could have killed somebody, 69 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,000 prescribing medicine that shouldn't be taken by certain people, 70 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,000 discharging people that shouldn't be discharged, 71 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,000 performing all kinds of pranks with people's lives. 72 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:30,000 He gets the same amount of prison time as the person you've heard on this radio program for so long, 73 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,000 who everybody said didn't do anything malicious. 74 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,000 Didn't do anything to hurt anybody. 75 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,000 Didn't do anything to damage anything. 76 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:45,000 Just was in the wrong place at the wrong time. 77 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,000 That's how it works. 78 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:56,000 As I said, we'll be getting into that story, that saga of fiber-optic going to prison, 79 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,000 and we'll let you know how things are going. 80 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 What else is happening? 81 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:07,000 Well, three Britons have been charged with conspiracy and a 2.5 million pound 82 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,000 Europe-wide credit card fraud. 83 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,000 That's about 3.7 million dollars. 84 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:17,000 The article says that the Birmingham men are accused of having used fake credit cards, 85 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:23,000 and they stole expensive products in France, Britain, Belgium, and the Netherlands. 86 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,000 Apparently, other arrests have been promised. 87 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,000 See, in England they promise arrests. 88 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,000 They're good on that. 89 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:36,000 And once again, we see that one of the world's most frequently used network access control tokens, 90 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,000 namely the common credit card, 91 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:44,000 is wholly inadequate to protect the public and the banking industry against fraud. 92 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:51,000 Now, how about this? Here's a story from Alan Wexelblatt. 93 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,000 This is a contribution to the Risks Digest. 94 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,000 It's one of those stories that you could swear you've heard before, 95 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,000 but you know you're going to hear it again. 96 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,000 My bank has installed one of those bank-by-phone services. 97 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,000 You call up, give your 10-digit account number, 98 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:13,000 and the password is the last four digits of your social security number, and off you go. 99 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,000 At the moment, the transactions available are purely informational, 100 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:22,000 like you can get your balance, you can get the last five checks that cleared, that kind of thing. 101 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,000 But they say they plan to allow operational transactions, 102 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,000 like paying your bills or transferring money, real soon. 103 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:35,000 The problems of this kind of system have been well covered here in the past and on this radio program. 104 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:40,000 What I need help with is also a known problem, but in this case it appears to be particularly severe. 105 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:46,000 In this system, if you time out too often or enter incorrect information twice, 106 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:52,000 you are transferred to a human being who is supposed to help you figure out the system. 107 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,000 In my case, I encountered this human being twice. 108 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:01,000 The first time, I had misunderstood which subset of the account digits they wanted, 109 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,000 and when I got to the human, he could apparently see the digits I had typed, 110 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,000 and he told me the correct digits to use for my account. 111 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,000 How helpful, I thought. 112 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:13,000 I then called back and tried the new digit set, and it still failed twice. 113 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:17,000 I talked to another human being who revealed that not only did he have on his screen my account number, 114 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:21,000 but also he had the four-digit password. 115 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,000 My four-digit password. 116 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,000 And he had the one that I had typed in correctly. 117 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,000 It turns out there was a data transcription error in my account, 118 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:34,000 and they had a wrong social security number for me, thus the password was different than I expected. 119 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:41,000 The helpful gentleman, with no confirmation of who I was, provided the correct four digits to me, 120 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,000 and I wasn't even trying to do social engineering. 121 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:52,000 Now, what I'd like to see done here is some sort of form of protest, 122 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,000 some sort of form of expression of alarm. 123 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,000 But how do we do this? 124 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:03,000 To whom within the bank or government or Securities and Exchange Commission and Better Business Bureau, 125 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,000 who do you send that letter to? 126 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:10,000 How do I explain to them that, A, they have to guard this information at least as closely as bank card pins, 127 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:14,000 B, they should provide some way for me to change my password, 128 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:19,000 and C, they have to train their people a whole lot better. 129 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,000 At the moment, I'm tempted to rant and rave at them, but I know a calm, well-thought-out, detailed response 130 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,000 is more likely to get the results I want. 131 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,000 Should I start off with a phone call? 132 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,000 Has anyone on this list dealt successfully with similar problems? 133 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:36,000 Well, that's the question asked on the risks list, the risks digest. 134 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,000 And I know people out there listening have had similar escapades. 135 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,000 I've had similar problems like this, where you call up the phone company, 136 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:47,000 and you find them, even though you're authorized to get this information, they're telling you way too much. 137 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,000 And you're thinking, yeah, this is your address, right? 138 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,000 This is your phone number. This is where you work. 139 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,000 That special password that you have, that's what this is, correct? 140 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,000 And, you know, you're not going to say no because it's correct information, 141 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,000 but you have to wonder, you know? 142 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:07,000 Someone else comes in there and says, you know, I need information on this particular account, 143 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,000 and they just happen to believe that the right person is calling in. 144 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,000 Well, we know from experience how much information they can get, 145 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,000 you get a lot of information on somebody, you have a lot of power over their lives, 146 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,000 you can control things, you can change things, you can turn their phone off, 147 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:25,000 you can change their address, change their name, who knows? 148 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,000 Anything's possible. 149 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,000 So, yeah, we have to have protection. 150 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,000 And there's those of you out there, those of us out there, people out there, 151 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,000 that understand this, but there's a lot of people that don't understand this, 152 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,000 a lot of people that think that we should just keep quiet about the whole thing, 153 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,000 we shouldn't be talking about it, we shouldn't be revealing security holes. 154 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:50,000 And showing people how easy it is to get information, how easy it is to manipulate information. 155 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,000 Well, that's not the way it works. 156 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:56,000 That's not the way it works for any kind of whistleblowing organization. 157 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:01,000 And hackers as well as people at WBAI share that. 158 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:07,000 Because when we see something, we talk about it, and we hope our listeners are the same way. 159 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,000 We hope that those of you out there that listen to these programs, 160 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,000 especially the programs on Wednesday night, 161 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:19,000 we try to bring you things that nobody else thinks to bring you. 162 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:24,000 Things that nobody else imagines are important. 163 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,000 Things that affect you, things that affect other people. 164 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,000 And lots of times it takes quite a bit of digging to figure all this out. 165 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,000 And sometimes you have to try and crack the system yourself to see where the weaknesses are. 166 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,000 And when we do that, we let you know. 167 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,000 But now we need something back from our listeners. 168 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,000 We need to hear from people out there that have been affected by all this. 169 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,000 And our number is 212-279-3400. 170 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:59,000 Our total, I don't think this is our show total, it's $45,095. 171 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:05,000 Now someone tell me that that's not our show total, because if it is, I can just stop right here. 172 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,000 All right, I don't think it is. 173 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:13,000 I think our show total is still either zero or not much more than that. 174 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:18,000 So perhaps the people in Tally Room can help us out there and keep us updated. 175 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,000 But we need to bring in a lot of new listeners today. 176 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,000 A lot of new members to Radio Station WBAI. 177 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,000 And you can help us out. You can help us out tremendously. 178 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:36,000 And believe me, this is the case, because we survive only because of our listeners. 179 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:42,000 I mean, you can look at radio and say, well, what radio station wouldn't survive because of its listeners? 180 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:48,000 It's weird, you know, you tune down the commercial dial and you'll hear so much repetition. 181 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,000 You wonder, who's listening to this garbage? Who is it that supports this? 182 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,000 I mean, why is this crap on the air? 183 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:59,000 Well, they don't really have to deal with listeners on a one-to-one basis. 184 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,000 They deal with sponsors. 185 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:06,000 Thankfully, the listeners hear the sponsors and buy the products, and that's how it all works. 186 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:11,000 But if you listen to WBAI, you've noticed that we don't have commercials. 187 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:16,000 We don't have any commercials, and the way we get our support is through our listeners. 188 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:28,000 212-279-3400, a pledge of $75 gets you a year of 2600, the Hacker Quarterly, which is an interesting publication, to say the least. 189 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,000 It gets quite a few people angry. 190 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:36,000 It gets a lot of notoriety for things that are uncovered in its pages. 191 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,000 And it's 10 years old, 10 years old this year. 192 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,000 That's pretty amazing in and of itself. 193 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,000 Any pledge, though, will be able to help out the radio station. 194 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,000 I mean, the minimum pledge is not $75. 195 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,000 The minimum pledge is really whatever it is you can afford. 196 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:57,000 212-279-3400, anybody that calls in and pledges will get the WBAI folio for a year, 197 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:03,000 and that's the only way to really find out what's on the radio station, 24 hours a day. 198 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:08,000 212-279-3400, now, I think our lights are burned out because not one of them is lit. 199 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:14,000 And I'd sure like to see some action out there, because I know there's lots of people that call in and share information 200 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,000 and get information from this program. 201 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:21,000 If you want us to continue to be able to do this, we have to have support. 202 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,000 It's a sad fact, but it's a true fact. 203 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:31,000 And we've had support in the past from our listeners, from all kinds of people throughout New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, 204 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,000 and anywhere else our signal happens to trespass into. 205 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:47,000 212-279-3400, we want to fill up the phone lines, get people calling in and helping us to remain strong. 206 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:53,000 A lot of what we bring you simply would not be heard anyplace else. 207 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,000 Nothing is more true than that. 208 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:02,000 This is the only place where you can hear information about computer systems and telephone systems 209 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,000 in the manner in which we bring it to you. 210 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,000 For instance, I'll give you an example. 211 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:11,000 Last week, we did something with some of our listeners. 212 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:17,000 We had a call in, and let me see if I can get a line here. 213 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,000 We also have all kinds of technical challenges here. 214 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,000 Right now we're trying to get a line. 215 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,000 It's not the easiest thing in the world. 216 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:32,000 212-279-3400, please fill up those phone lines while we're trying to figure out the phone here. 217 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,000 And do we have a line? 218 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,000 Okay, we have a line. 219 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:41,000 Last week, one of our listeners said, why don't you try calling this particular number? 220 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,000 Let's try it again. 221 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,000 I think this will work this time. 222 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,000 Yeah, that's interesting, isn't it? 223 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:10,000 Now, that is something that you get now if you dial 311 from many, many places. 224 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,000 311. 225 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,000 Now, I've tried this in the 516 area code. 226 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:19,000 I've tried it in the 212 area code, and you get similar things. 227 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,000 Some of the tones are a little bit longer. 228 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:29,000 Now, what that is, that's called TDD data, or I guess just TDD. 229 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,000 That's kind of an ancient way of transcribing information. 230 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,000 A lot of deaf people use those particular devices. 231 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:49,000 To give you an idea of the speed of this thing, our current barred rates are something like 2400, 9600, 14.4, and beyond. 232 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:53,000 This is a barred rate of 45. 233 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,000 Not 4500, 45. 234 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,000 Four, five. 235 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,000 Two digits. 236 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,000 That's it. 237 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,000 That's how slow it is. 238 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:06,000 Now, why, why in heaven's name is this suddenly popping up everywhere you go when you dial 311? 239 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,000 Why is that? 240 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,000 Well, we have an answer. 241 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,000 We have an answer. 242 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,000 Hey, the phone lines are full. 243 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:17,000 Are they really full, or is this just somebody with a 10-line phone pulling a gag on us? 244 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,000 Okay. 245 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,000 Everybody is calling in. 246 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,000 212-279-3400. 247 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,000 Call now, and you'll get a busy signal. 248 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,000 That's a good sign. 249 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,000 But it doesn't mean that you shouldn't call. 250 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,000 It means that you should try again. 251 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,000 In fact, you can try. 252 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,000 Now, don't do that. 253 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,000 You see, we'll also tell you about the ripoffs. 254 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:37,000 I was going to say dial star-66 and camp on, and then your phone will ring back with our number, 255 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,000 and you'll pick it up, and our phone will ring. 256 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,000 It's that little service that the phone company provides. 257 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:47,000 But they charge you 75 cents for it whether or not it works, and it's just a little too much for my taste. 258 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,000 So don't do that, but call us anyway. 259 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,000 212-279-3400. 260 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:56,000 You see, when is the last time you can think of a radio show that, or a TV show, 261 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:01,000 that says don't use this service that the phone company is introducing because it's a ripoff? 262 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,000 There's a reason why. 263 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,000 Do you think it's because we're smarter than they are? 264 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,000 Well, maybe we are, but that's not the reason. 265 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,000 The reason is they will feel the heat if they say that. 266 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,000 If anybody at, say, Channel 6, and I said 6 because we don't have a Channel 6, 267 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,000 and I don't want to offend anybody at Channel 2, 268 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:24,000 if they were to say that the phone company is ripping you off, don't use this, this is very bad, 269 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:30,000 and they continually told you about all the ripoffs the phone company issued on a regular basis, 270 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:35,000 well, it's possible that 9X might not advertise as much on that particular radio station. 271 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,000 We don't have to worry about that because it'll be a cold day in hell 272 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:43,000 when 9X advertises at all on this radio station. 273 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,000 We will not accept advertising, whether or not they want to. 274 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,000 We will not accept underwriting. 275 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:54,000 I mean, if they sent us a $1 million check tomorrow, we probably wouldn't honor that either, 276 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,000 although I don't know for sure, but I doubt we would. 277 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:02,000 The thing is, we don't have to worry about upsetting large corporations, 278 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,000 and that's why we're so good at it, 279 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:09,000 because the only thing we have to worry about is their wrath 280 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,000 and the various underhanded things that they'll do to us. 281 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,000 But we don't have to worry about the radio station being affected in any way 282 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,000 because you're there. 283 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,000 Our listeners are there. 284 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,000 You see what the power is, the power of the individual here? 285 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,000 It's not a fantasy. 286 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,000 It's not something we're making up 287 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,000 because if you're hearing my voice, it's reality. 288 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:32,000 We exist, we're here, and we're here because of you. 289 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,000 It's cause and effect. 290 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,000 212-279-3400. 291 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:41,000 Now, I was driving around today at 6 in the morning, 292 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,000 right after the gothic radio show went off the air, 293 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,000 and I heard the marathon begin, 6 in the morning, 294 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:54,000 and the marathon had zilch, zero, no money at all. 295 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,000 We were starting from scratch, 296 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,000 but now we're over $45,000 in that amount of time. 297 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,000 How do you think that happened? 298 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,000 Do you think Exxon or 9X or Mobile Oil 299 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:11,000 or any of those other huge companies came in and dropped cash on the table? 300 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,000 No. 301 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,000 It came from people like you calling in 212-279-3400, 302 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,000 pledging whatever it is they could afford, 303 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,000 using their credit cards, Visa and MasterCard, 304 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:26,000 and helping us out in whatever way they can. 305 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,000 And look where we've gotten so far. 306 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:35,000 So that's how it all translates. 307 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,000 You call up, you become part of a much bigger thing. 308 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,000 212-279-3400. 309 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,000 We have open lines now, 310 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,000 so if you were frustrated by a busy signal before, 311 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,000 you won't be frustrated now. 312 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,000 And no, we have not forgotten about the 311 mystery 313 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,000 because we're going to tell... 314 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,000 I'll tell you what. 315 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,000 If I see a couple more calls come in... 316 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,000 I know, I hate to do this. 317 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,000 I know you hate hearing it, 318 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,000 but I just want to see a couple more calls come in, 319 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,000 and then once those calls come in, 320 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,000 we'll explain what the 311 thing is, 321 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:11,000 or at least what we think the 311 thing is so far. 322 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,000 Because we've been working on this. 323 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,000 People tell us various things, 324 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,000 and we investigate them, 325 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,000 and we play around with them. 326 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,000 And I guess maybe we're not even supposed to do that. 327 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,000 Maybe we're supposed to not call something 328 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,000 without knowing what it is. 329 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,000 Maybe we could get in trouble for this. 330 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,000 Maybe we could be sent to prison for a year 331 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,000 for unauthorized access to something. 332 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,000 Who knows? 333 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,000 It's a chance we take. 334 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,000 When you want to find something out, 335 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,000 you do it anyway. 336 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,000 You just don't hurt things, 337 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,000 you don't destroy things, 338 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,000 you don't litter. 339 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,000 You know, it's like walking through a forest. 340 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,000 I've always had trouble with people saying, 341 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,000 you can't walk here. 342 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,000 It's not yours. 343 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,000 Well, of course it's not mine. 344 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,000 How could land be anybody's? 345 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,000 How can a beach be anybody's? 346 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,000 How can water belong to people? 347 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,000 How can the sky belong to somebody? 348 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,000 It doesn't. 349 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,000 Clearly it doesn't. 350 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,000 And while we might be able to 351 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,000 make little pieces of paper and documents 352 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,000 claim that we own them for a short amount of time, 353 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,000 namely our lifetimes, 354 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,000 in the end, 355 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,000 it belongs to the planet. 356 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,000 And that's how it is. 357 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,000 You just have to show respect 358 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,000 as you pass through. 359 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,000 So, thank you. 360 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,000 We're offering the magazine. 361 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,000 2600. 362 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,000 Some confusion as to what we're offering. 363 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,000 We're offering 2600 magazine 364 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,000 for people that call in. 365 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,000 212-279-3400. 366 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,000 In the same way, 367 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,000 when you wander around 368 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,000 on phone systems and computer systems, 369 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,000 you have to sort of get what you can out of it. 370 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,000 You have to learn and share information 371 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,000 and not close things off to people. 372 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,000 If you close things off to people, 373 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,000 you're not really going to accomplish anything. 374 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,000 You're just going to make the resolve 375 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,000 a lot stronger of people that want to get in, 376 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,000 people that want to figure out how things work 377 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,000 and what you're really doing. 378 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,000 That doesn't mean that every single action 379 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,000 is accountable. 380 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,000 But when you're running systems 381 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,000 that have to do with the public interest 382 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,000 as opposed to the federal interest, 383 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,000 well, people do have a right to know 384 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,000 and people are not told. 385 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,000 There's a lot that people are not told. 386 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,000 Okay. 387 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,000 Looks like we got our phone call. 388 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,000 So, I'm going to live up to my part 389 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,000 of the promise here. 390 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,000 It's another thing that we do here at BAI. 391 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,000 We honor our promises. 392 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,000 Make sure you honor your pledges, please. 393 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,000 All right. 394 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,000 311 is a very weird type of thing. 395 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,000 It's showing up everywhere. 396 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,000 It's not a fluke. 397 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,000 It's something that's planned. 398 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,000 What we did was we found a TDD machine 399 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,000 and we actually were able to do this on 3-Way. 400 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,000 We got three people on the phone 401 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,000 and one of them happened to be a TDD machine. 402 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,000 Now, that's the difference between TDDs and modems. 403 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,000 You can talk while they're online 404 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,000 and it doesn't really mess up the data 405 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,000 that's being received. 406 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,000 The data that was received in various forms, 407 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,000 because depending on whether we called 212 or 516, 408 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,000 we got slightly different information, 409 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,000 but the data, for the most part, 410 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,000 said this is the New York State Police. 411 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,000 That's right. 412 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,000 The New York State Police on 311. 413 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,000 If you dial 311, 414 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,000 for some reason that we don't know yet, 415 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,000 you're getting the equivalent of a teletype machine 416 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,000 at the New York State Police. 417 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,000 Now, why would somebody want to call 418 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,000 the New York State Police in the first place 419 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,000 when it's county police and borough police 420 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,000 and things like that that handle any local emergency, 421 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,000 not the state police? 422 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,000 I'm not quite sure why that is, 423 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,000 but I know now that with this new information, 424 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,000 our listeners are going to go out 425 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,000 and find out some more things 426 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,000 and, of course, we're going to do 427 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,000 some more investigation ourselves 428 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,000 and when we learn more, 429 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,000 we'll spread it around here. 430 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,000 Okay. 431 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,000 Now, something else that's going on, 432 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,000 which I think is really kind of interesting, 433 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,000 has to do with something nostalgic, 434 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,000 something new, 435 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:18,000 something that's new and old at the same time. 436 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,000 You know what I'm talking about, right? 437 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,000 Rotary pay phones. 438 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,000 See the piece in the New York Times yesterday 439 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,000 on the front page? 440 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,000 Rotary pay phones return, this time, 441 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,000 to foil drug deals. 442 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,000 This is about the dumbest thing 443 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,000 I've ever seen in my life. 444 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,000 The phone company 445 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,000 and a bunch of civic association people 446 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000 have gotten together 447 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,000 and pulled their brains, 448 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,000 which I don't know what that amounts to, 449 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,000 and come to the conclusion 450 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,000 that if they simply replace touch-tone phones 451 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,000 with rotary phones, 452 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,000 that's going to somehow make drug dealers go away. 453 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,000 Let's go over the story a little bit 454 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,000 and then we'll... 455 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,000 Well, we don't have enough time 456 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,000 to go over all the reasons 457 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,000 why that doesn't work, 458 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,000 but we'll take a brief look at this. 459 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,000 Also, we're going to take a few phone calls 460 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,000 at our special line, 461 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,000 212-279-3407. 462 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,000 That's right after we talk about this, 463 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,000 but that's not meant to be a deterrent 464 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,000 to calling our pledge line 465 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,000 at 212-279-3400. 466 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,000 Remember, everybody that calls in 467 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,000 with the $75 pledge 468 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,000 will get a full year of 2600 magazine, 469 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,000 the Hacker Quarterly, 470 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,000 and a whole lot of respect 471 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,000 from all of us. 472 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,000 Okay, at 8th Avenue and West 45th Street, 473 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000 that's right near here too, 474 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,000 there are three pay telephones. 475 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,000 In fact, I think I've seen these phones. 476 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,000 A man looks at the first, 477 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,000 shakes his head, 478 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,000 and goes to the second. 479 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,000 He rolls his eyes and moves to the third. 480 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,000 Finally, he shrugs, 481 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,000 shoves in a quarter and dials, 482 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,000 methodically putting his index finger 483 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,000 in the little hole over each number 484 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,000 and turning the dial seven times. 485 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,000 You notice how the New York Times 486 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,000 is getting more literary 487 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,000 with the way they write articles. 488 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,000 You get that little drama in there. 489 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,000 Well, I know it's also a good instruction 490 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,000 for those of you that don't know 491 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,000 how to use those strange-looking phones. 492 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,000 You put your index finger in that little hole 493 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,000 and turn the dial seven times. 494 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,000 I've seen people say 495 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,000 they don't know how to use those things. 496 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,000 Okay, the man said, 497 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,000 I won't say his name, 498 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,000 even though it's on the front page of the paper, 499 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,000 he said, I don't like it. 500 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,000 It takes too long to dial 501 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,000 and I've got places to go. 502 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,000 Three decades after buttons began 503 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,000 to replace rotary dials on American phones, 504 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,000 time has reversed itself 505 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,000 at about 250 outdoor pay phones 506 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,000 in New York City. 507 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,000 Responding to appeals from community groups 508 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,000 trying to stop drug dealers 509 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,000 from using public phones to do business, 510 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,000 9X, which of course was formerly 511 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,000 New York Telephone, 512 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,000 actually, it's not really 513 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,000 formerly New York Telephone, 514 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,000 it's simply swallowed up New York Telephone, 515 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,000 they have brought back old-fashioned dialing. 516 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,000 Astonishment seems the most prevalent response. 517 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,000 It wakes you up a little. 518 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,000 Said a cab driver 519 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,000 who pulled over to the 8th Avenue phone 520 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,000 to call his sister. 521 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,000 It's an eye-opener. 522 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,000 It's the boldest tactic in a campaign 523 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,000 that began with improved lighting, 524 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,000 moving phones away from problem areas, 525 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,000 then disabling phones 526 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,000 so they cannot receive incoming calls. 527 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,000 About a quarter of 9X's 8,400 street phones 528 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,000 do not take incoming calls. 529 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,000 And now the company is taking rotary pay phones, 530 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,000 which, by the way, 531 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,000 are no longer made in the United States, 532 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,000 and taking these rotary pay phones out of storage. 533 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,000 Here's what a 9X spokesperson said. 534 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,000 I'll give his name, Stephen Marcus. 535 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,000 He says this, 536 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,000 the rotary dial is a step backward technologically, 537 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,000 but it prevents a drug dealer 538 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,000 from paging a customer or runner. 539 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,000 He said the change was made as an absolute last resort, 540 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,000 since the phones cannot take advantage 541 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,000 of many new services like voicemail 542 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,000 that rely on push-button phones. 543 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,000 Phone company officials acknowledge 544 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,000 that the rotary phone tactic is not foolproof. 545 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,000 Callers, this is the best part, 546 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,000 callers can use a device called a tone dialer, 547 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,000 which is sold for about $15 at electronic stores, 548 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,000 and you can use those to send tone signals 549 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,000 over a phone with a rotary dial. 550 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:18,000 But they say the devices do not appear to have caught on. 551 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,000 Yeah. 552 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,000 Phone companies in other areas 553 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,000 have also brought back rotary pay phones 554 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,000 on drug-infested corners, 555 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,000 though not on a widespread basis. 556 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,000 We really do it as one of the last resorts 557 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,000 as a response to community concerns, 558 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,000 said Beverly Levy, 559 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,000 spokeswoman for Southern New England Telephone, 560 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,000 which serves most of Connecticut. 561 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,000 Well, as I said, 562 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,000 this is about the silliest thing I think I've ever seen. 563 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,000 First of all, what 9x has now done 564 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,000 is they've given us a very easy way 565 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,000 to find out where drugs are sold. 566 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,000 You simply drive around, 567 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,000 and if you see a rotary phone, 568 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,000 you say, hey, this is the neighborhood, 569 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,000 this is where drug dealers hang out. 570 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,000 But apart from that, 571 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,000 it's not going to solve a single thing. 572 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,000 The only thing it's going to do 573 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,000 is make things more inconvenient for other people, 574 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:05,000 the same thing that blocking incoming phone calls will do. 575 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,000 I mean, how many times have you been at a pay phone 576 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,000 and you needed somebody to call you back, 577 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,000 or you didn't want to keep throwing money in, 578 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,000 and you wanted somebody to call you back? 579 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,000 Well, that's good for drug dealers, 580 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,000 so therefore it's not good for the rest of us. 581 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,000 Wrong. 582 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,000 That's not the case at all. 583 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,000 In that particular case, 584 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,000 the phone company definitely benefits 585 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,000 from turning off incoming phone calls to a pay phone. 586 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,000 But they can point to the war on drugs and say, 587 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,000 that's the reason why we did it. 588 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,000 In this particular case, 589 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,000 the phone company doesn't really benefit at all, 590 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,000 but they make it seem 591 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,000 as if they're doing something good for the community. 592 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,000 Well, I don't think this is very good for the community at all, 593 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:46,000 because people have come to depend on touch tones 594 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,000 for various things, 595 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,000 using their voicemail systems, beeping people. 596 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,000 Yeah, people do beep people without drugs involved, 597 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,000 although it is pretty rare, I guess. 598 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,000 Using answering machines and long-distance companies, 599 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,000 what have you. 600 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,000 People need touch tones. 601 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,000 People use them all the time. 602 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,000 This doesn't solve anything. 603 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,000 Ever hear of a cellular telephone? 604 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,000 A lot of drug dealers have cellular telephones. 605 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,000 They don't care. 606 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,000 It's not going to change anything. 607 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,000 It's not going to change a thing. 608 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,000 This is the silliest thing I have ever seen. 609 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,000 And again, what we need is people to say this, 610 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,000 because you have these people on the community boards 611 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,000 that really, although good intention, 612 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,000 they don't grasp what's going on here. 613 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,000 You're not going to get rid of drug dealers 614 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,000 by getting rid of pay phones, 615 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,000 getting rid of dials, 616 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,000 getting rid of incoming call capabilities. 617 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,000 You're not going to do it. 618 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:44,000 It's a much more complex problem than that. 619 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,000 So, I'd like to know what people think about this. 620 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,000 It's a funny story in a way, 621 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,000 but also indicative of how people feel 622 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,000 when it comes to technology. 623 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,000 They just don't get it a lot of times. 624 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,000 212-279-3407 if you want to be on the air, 625 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:06,000 and 212-279-3400 to make a pledge. 626 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,000 What is our total? 627 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,000 Is that really our total? 628 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,000 That's very good. 629 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,000 That's very good. 630 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,000 We're over $1,000. 631 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,000 We're over $1,000. 632 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,000 I'm very impressed. 633 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,000 I think that's better than we've done 634 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,000 in quite some time on this radio program. 635 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,000 Quite some time. 636 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,000 If you want to add to that, please do. 637 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,000 Please do. 638 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,000 We're doing very well, 639 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,000 but that doesn't mean that we can't do better, 640 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,000 because the better we do, 641 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,000 the more it's going to show. 642 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,000 Maybe we'll get a phone system someday 643 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,000 where both the person on the radio 644 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,000 and the person calling in 645 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,000 can talk at the same time 646 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,000 without one person not being able to hear 647 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,000 anything the other person is saying. 648 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,000 It's little things like that. 649 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,000 They're annoying, 650 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,000 but they're the kind of things that we get fixed 651 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,000 with the money that is sent to us by our listeners. 652 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,000 212-279-3400 is a very important number to call. 653 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,000 Again, this is the only time this radio program 654 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,000 will be on during the entire marathon, 655 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,000 so please call now, 212-279-3400. 656 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,000 We take Visa. 657 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,000 We take MasterCard. 658 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,000 We'll work with you. 659 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,000 We'll do everything we can 660 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,000 to make this as pleasant an experience 661 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,000 as possible for everybody in concern. 662 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,000 All right. 663 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,000 Again, our on-the-air phone number is 664 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,000 212-279-3407. 665 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,000 Those lines are pretty much all clogged up already, 666 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,000 so please call in the pledge line 667 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,000 and show your support. 668 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,000 Good evening. 669 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,000 You're on the air. 670 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,000 Yeah, hi. 671 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,000 You know that feature where the 9X cuts you off 672 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,000 after about 40 rings? 673 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,000 Yeah, it's a wonderful feature, isn't it? 674 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,000 Yeah. 675 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,000 I'm wondering, 676 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,000 is it a level playing field 677 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,000 as every region of the city and the suburbs have it, 678 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,000 or some people that are calling in to BAI 679 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,000 still have the old way of doing it 680 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,000 where they have an advantage? 681 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,000 Okay, well, nobody has the old way anymore, 682 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,000 and the reason for that is because 683 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,000 our central office, 684 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,000 the 279 exchange, 685 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,000 the phone company in that particular exchange 686 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,000 has set a value on their computer saying 687 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,000 if number of rings equals 688 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,000 however many number of rings it is, 689 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,000 what is it, 40, 50, 60, 690 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,000 then disconnect. 691 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,000 It's a function of the receiving phone. 692 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,000 Right. 693 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,000 In the end, it's a function of the receiving line, 694 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,000 but there are other cases where 695 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,000 if you're using, say, a long-distance company, 696 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,000 for instance, people from New Jersey 697 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,000 might be using AT&T. 698 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,000 Well, AT&T might put a one-minute limit 699 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,000 on their outgoing calls 700 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,000 if nobody picks up. 701 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,000 They'll send a recording saying, 702 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,000 hey, nobody's picking up. 703 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,000 Try again later. 704 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,000 So it depends where you're calling from. 705 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,000 Some places use different carriers, 706 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,000 and those carriers have less of a limit, 707 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,000 but in the end, 708 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,000 you'll fall victim to the 279 exchange here, 709 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,000 which has a limit of however many rings that is. 710 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,000 Now, again, that's something that can be changed. 711 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,000 I've seen it changed. 712 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,000 It's something that is set in the system, 713 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,000 and if we had enough clout with the phone company, 714 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,000 if they didn't dislike us so much... 715 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,000 ...on a phone-by-phone basis? 716 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,000 I don't know if they can do it on a phone-by-phone basis. 717 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,000 They can certainly do it on an exchange basis, 718 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,000 for instance, the entire 279 exchange. 719 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,000 For the last couple of dozen years, 720 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,000 this hasn't been a problem. 721 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,000 I haven't seen the phone company suffering 722 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,000 as a result of people letting the phone ring 723 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,000 for a long period of time. 724 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,000 I mean, how many people actually do that? 725 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,000 People calling this radio station right now 726 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,000 are probably the only people 727 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,000 that are calling something in this exchange 728 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,000 and letting it ring for more than 10 times. 729 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,000 So not that many people are affected by it. 730 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,000 The phone company really doesn't lose much money 731 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,000 by doing this, if any at all. 732 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,000 They should program it so that it's only done on peak periods. 733 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,000 That's an idea. 734 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,000 That's an idea, although I really don't think 735 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,000 it would even affect them much in peak periods. 736 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,000 So, again, if it's something that people want, 737 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,000 if we know how to apply the pressure, 738 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,000 then things will change. 739 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,000 It's as simple as that. 740 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,000 But you know the people on the left are disorganized? 741 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,000 People on the left are disorganized, 742 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,000 but it's better than being on the other side 743 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,000 where people are a little too organized sometimes. 744 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,000 But that's one of the definitions of being a leftist. 745 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,000 I guess. I guess it is, in one way. 746 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,000 But you can still use it. 747 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,000 And technology is the best way to use 748 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,000 the power that you have as an individual 749 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,000 because you can reach a lot more people that way. 750 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,000 You can inspire people, 751 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,000 and maybe something will get done. 752 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,000 Can I ask you one more question? 753 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,000 Sure. 754 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:20,000 If I wanted to leave a message of a commercial nature, 755 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,000 is it true that the original users of Internet 756 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,000 are sort of boycotting commercial messages, 757 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,000 and what they're doing is they're bombarding the phone number 758 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000 and they're calling you up with crank calls? 759 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,000 Well, I mean, there might be some people that do that. 760 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,000 That's not an official policy of anybody. 761 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,000 But the original purpose of the Internet 762 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,000 was not for commercial use. 763 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,000 However, that is changing, obviously, 764 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,000 as commercial entities get involved in it. 765 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,000 But hopefully, hopefully the day will not come 766 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,000 where you're using your Internet mailbox 767 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,000 and you have to go through all the junk mail 768 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,000 that shows up every day that is unasked for. 769 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,000 It's like your regular mailbox. 770 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,000 But for a person like myself 771 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,000 who's starting a business on a shoestring, 772 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,000 what would it cost me to go on the Internet 773 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,000 and put a message there? 774 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,000 What do you mean by put a message there? 775 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,000 A message of a commercial nature 776 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:09,000 that would interest or excite anybody that logs on. 777 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,000 Well, as far as people calling you, 778 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,000 they're calling you, so you can say whatever you want. 779 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,000 But if you're going to go around 780 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,000 sending messages to people unsolicited, 781 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,000 that's definitely going to react, 782 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,000 and you'll get a bad reaction to that. 783 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,000 Is there a global mailbox 784 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,000 where you can just leave a message 785 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,000 for anybody and everybody that wants to look at it? 786 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,000 If you get people to contact you, yes, 787 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,000 then they can see information 788 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,000 by either fingering your account, 789 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,000 or you can have an auto-reply. 790 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,000 People that want information send you mail, 791 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,000 and it automatically gets sent out to them. 792 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,000 But they initially take the first step. 793 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,000 It's considered really bad to deluge people 794 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,000 with commercial material if they didn't ask for it. 795 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,000 Right. It seems like it is limited. 796 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,000 There's no real way that they can find... 797 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,000 Generally speaking, it's like a jungle out there. 798 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,000 I mean, it's a maze trying to figure out... 799 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,000 It's not really user-friendly, I think. 800 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,000 All these BBSs seem to be that way. 801 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,000 It's just like they... 802 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,000 And if you don't want to spend the time with the phone chargers, 803 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,000 you really don't want to practice with them 804 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,000 for like four hours to figure out 805 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,000 what's good on it and what's bad. 806 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,000 Sometimes you have to sort of 807 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,000 wander around for long periods of time. 808 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,000 The Internet is different 809 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,000 than everything we've had before this. 810 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,000 People don't think in the same way. 811 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,000 Money is not as much of a concern. 812 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,000 And there's more equality there 813 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,000 than any place else in society 814 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,000 because you really don't know who you're talking to. 815 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,000 And that's a good thing. 816 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,000 People prove themselves on their words. 817 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,000 Thanks for calling. 818 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,000 Let's take another phone call. 819 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,000 212-279-3407. 820 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,000 But our pledge lines are wide open 821 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,000 at 212-279-3400. 822 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,000 And in a little while, 823 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,000 in about maybe 10 minutes, 824 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,000 10 to 15 minutes or so, 825 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,000 we will tell you the saga of fiber-optic 826 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,000 as he went to prison 827 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,000 and is now there, locked up. 828 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,000 Good evening. You're on the air. 829 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,000 Hello? 830 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,000 Yes, go ahead. 831 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,000 Yes, I had a question. 832 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,000 And that question was? 833 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,000 About the Kraft Access computer that I've heard about. 834 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,000 Yes. 835 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,000 Can you give me any information on that, 836 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,000 what that was used for, and if it is still in use? 837 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,000 Yes, the Kraft Access terminals are used by phone companies. 838 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,000 They're little portable computers, 839 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,000 is what they are. 840 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,000 And they're used to access computers 841 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,000 that the phone company has. 842 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,000 Lots of times they have 843 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,000 all kinds of information stored in them. 844 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,000 And you can use it basically 845 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,000 to get information on a customer, 846 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,000 to change reports, 847 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,000 to finish repair reports, 848 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,000 things like that. 849 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,000 Every lineman has one. 850 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,000 Every lineman carries one with him. 851 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,000 OK. 852 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,000 Well, Electronics Corporation, 853 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,000 they have an AT&T handset, 854 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,000 new in the box, for $60, 855 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,000 with the Kraft Access controls on it. 856 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,000 Uh-huh. 857 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,000 Well, now, I'm not sure, 858 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,000 I haven't seen the AT&T version, 859 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,000 so I can't really tell you 860 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,000 what that is exactly, 861 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,000 but it's used by local phone companies. 862 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,000 OK. 863 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,000 It has an LCD screen and a joystick on it. 864 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,000 Right. 865 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,000 OK. All right. Thanks for the info. 866 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,000 OK. 867 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,000 Well, that's it for the phone company, 868 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,000 and you might find some Kraft Access terminals there, 869 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,000 but I doubt it. 870 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,000 I think those are things that they don't really want 871 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,000 spread around, but as we learn more, 872 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,000 we'll certainly pass it on. 873 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,000 212-279-3400 874 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,000 is our pledge line. 875 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,000 Please, let's get a couple of calls 876 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,000 coming in on that line as well. 877 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,000 We're going to take a couple more phone calls. 878 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,000 And that's not going to be one of them. 879 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,000 Good evening. 880 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,000 Good evening, everyone. 881 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,000 Yeah. Hi. 882 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,000 How are you doing? 883 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,000 All right. Here's the story. 884 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,000 What does 9X stand for? 885 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,000 OK. That's a good question. 886 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,000 I think it is. 887 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,000 You know, I only ask good questions. 888 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,000 That's true. 889 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,000 I mean, I asked the telephone operator, 890 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,000 what does 9X stand for? 891 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,000 You never stick around to hear the answer. 892 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,000 He doesn't even know. 893 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,000 All right. Well, I'm going to tell you 894 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,000 what no listener knows first, and if no listener knows, 895 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,000 then I'm going to tell you. 896 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,000 Really, I will. Good evening. 897 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,000 Yeah, I'd say it's New York, New England. 898 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,000 OK, but what does the X stand for? 899 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,000 Then I have really no idea. 900 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,000 Then your answer is completely worthless. 901 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,000 You have to have the whole thing. 902 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,000 Maybe an exchange carrier or something like that? 903 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,000 That's a very good guess. 904 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,000 But it's wrong? 905 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,000 That's totally wrong, but it's a very good guess. 906 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,000 OK, thanks. 907 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,000 All right. Let's try a couple more people, 908 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,000 and see who knows this. Good evening. 909 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,000 Hello? 910 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,000 Yes. You have a horrible hum on the line. 911 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,000 Can you hear me? 912 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,000 Oh, we're on delay. 913 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,000 Yes. We're also on a lousy hum here. 914 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,000 Something's wrong with the phones. 915 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,000 Yeah, something is very wrong with the phones. 916 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,000 All right. Well, unfortunately, 917 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,000 we won't be able to get anywhere with that person. 918 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,000 That's sad. He probably had the answer. 919 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,000 Good evening. 920 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,000 Hi. I'm glad I got through. 921 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,000 I found something strange about the 3407 exchange. 922 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,000 Usually when I call 3400 and the line is busy, 923 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,000 I get a busy signal. 924 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,000 But with 07, it rings twice, 925 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,000 and then a message, you know, 926 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,000 you get that da-da-da, 927 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,000 and it says, your call has not gone through. 928 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,000 Please try again. 929 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,000 And then this man's voice comes on. 930 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,000 It says, why 3285? 931 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,000 Why indeed? 932 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,000 I'm calling from 914 exchange, 933 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,000 but I found that really strange 934 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,000 when I was trying to get through here. 935 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,000 Did that happen more than once? 936 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,000 You're saying you called us, 937 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,000 and you got two rings, 938 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,000 and then a recording saying what? 939 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,000 You know, you get that da-da-da, 940 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,000 that signal, and a woman's voice says, 941 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,000 your call did not go through. 942 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,000 Please try your call again. 943 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,000 And then a man's voice comes on. 944 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,000 It says, why 3285? 945 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,000 Right. What that is is simply a label 946 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,000 for the recording, where the recording is coming from. 947 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,000 But I'm more concerned with why you're getting 948 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,000 that recording in the first place. 949 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,000 You shouldn't be. 950 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,000 A lot of people are calling. 951 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,000 I just get a busy signal, you know? 952 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,000 Okay, well, assuming that these lines remain busy, 953 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,000 we'll try it ourselves, 954 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,000 and see if the same thing happens to us. 955 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,000 Well, that's basically all I want to say. 956 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,000 Okay. Well, thanks for calling. 957 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,000 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. 958 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,000 How could that have been what he wanted to say? 959 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,000 He called us to tell us 960 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,000 that when he calls us, 961 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,000 he doesn't get through. 962 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,000 Now, that's not right. 963 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,000 That's not right, because he called us initially 964 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,000 to find out something else, 965 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,000 and that's when he found out he couldn't get through. 966 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,000 It's a self-referential call there. 967 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,000 Well, I guess we'll never know what that was all about. 968 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,000 All right. 969 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,000 Let's try this. 970 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,000 This is going to be kind of tricky, though. 971 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,000 We've got to somehow 972 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,000 call this line 973 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,000 and see if 974 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,000 we get the same problem. 975 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,000 All right. 976 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,000 All right. 977 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,000 I'm going to try 978 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,000 to call this line on another 979 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,000 phone number here, 980 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,000 and we will see in a second 981 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,000 if we get the same problem. 982 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,000 See, I can't get a single 983 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,000 line here. 984 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,000 All right, let's try it over here. 985 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,000 My apologies for this 986 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,000 thing sometimes 987 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,000 get a little... 988 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,000 Okay, here we go. 989 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,000 Let's get a dial tone. 990 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,000 Got a busy signal 991 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,000 right away. 992 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,000 Now, I don't doubt that's what happened, 993 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,000 but it's not happening consistently. 994 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,000 If anyone else has that problem, let us know. 995 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,000 Okay, very quickly now. 996 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,000 We'll take one or two more calls, 997 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,000 see if anybody knows what 9x stands for, 998 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,000 and then we'll go back 999 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,000 to the show and back to 1000 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,000 taking some more pledges. 1001 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,000 Hopefully that number will go up. 1002 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,000 Yeah, it's going up a little bit. 1003 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,000 212-279-3400. 1004 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,000 $75 pledge will get you 1005 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,000 a subscription to 2600 Magazine, 1006 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,000 the elite publication of 1007 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,000 computer hackers everywhere. 1008 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,000 I can't believe I just said that. 1009 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,000 Good evening. You're on. 1010 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,000 Hello, are you there? 1011 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,000 Hello, are you there? 1012 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,000 Yes. Oh, are we on time delay? 1013 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,000 Yes, we are. 1014 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,000 I tried about 40 times 1015 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,000 to get through, and it rings once and then disconnects. 1016 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,000 I called the operator. She said, oh, that line's 1017 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,000 out of order. But that's not why I called, 1018 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,000 so I don't want to waste time on that. 1019 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,000 I think it's a conspiracy against you. 1020 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,000 Well, it's one of many, actually. 1021 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,000 I don't know. Whatever. 1022 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,000 Anyway, maybe it was when you switched over. 1023 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,000 Something is getting caught up, 1024 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,000 or they just don't want to waste the electricity. 1025 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,000 I think that's why they cut it down to 10 rings. 1026 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,000 Yeah, they're conserving power. 1027 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,000 Yeah, okay. Well, that's good. I'm for conserving things. 1028 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,000 I just wanted to mention 1029 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,000 two things. One, I've heard presidents 1030 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,000 and politicians talk 1031 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,000 about how they're going to stop drugs. 1032 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,000 I've never heard them mention 1033 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,000 how they're going to help people 1034 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,000 by... When I get through listening, 1035 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,000 I ask myself, why do people take drugs? 1036 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,000 And I think the answer is 1037 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,000 because they don't feel good. 1038 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,000 Why don't they feel good? Because they're not 1039 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,000 eating right. They're not healthy. 1040 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,000 And I noticed something in my life, 1041 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,000 and I'm not saying 1042 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,000 alcohol is good, bad, whatever. 1043 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,000 Maybe in moderation, it's okay. I don't know. 1044 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,000 But I know one thing. 1045 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,000 Sometime in 1985, when I started 1046 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,000 taking food supplements 1047 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,000 on a regular basis, 1048 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,000 I lost my desire to drink. 1049 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,000 Not that I drank 1050 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,000 to excess, or that it 1051 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,000 interfered with my life. 1052 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,000 But I found that I just 1053 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,000 didn't... I felt so good, 1054 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,000 I didn't want to change that. 1055 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,000 And if 1056 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,000 we would start to treat people 1057 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,000 and feed them 1058 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,000 and educate them instead of... 1059 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,000 There are people out there that eat all day long 1060 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,000 and they're eating garbage. 1061 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,000 They're eating fast food and they're eating 1062 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,000 plastic food and synthetic food 1063 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,000 and irradiated food. 1064 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,000 If only we would educate them 1065 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,000 and start with the children. 1066 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,000 I keep saying, I'm going to start keeping records 1067 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,000 January 1st, but 1068 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,000 January 15th comes. 1069 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,000 Start today. Today is the beginning 1070 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,000 of the rest of our lives. 1071 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,000 I wonder, a lot of times people feel really good 1072 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,000 when they give homeless people 1073 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,000 remains of a Big Mac or something like that. 1074 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,000 I just wonder, how many people 1075 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,000 out there have eaten fast food 1076 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,000 all day long? 1077 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,000 Day after day. 1078 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,000 It's not good for you. 1079 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,000 But why doesn't anyone 1080 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,000 nourish? Why doesn't anyone say 1081 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,000 let's nourish them, let's feed them. 1082 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,000 They're out there 1083 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,000 and they need something. 1084 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,000 It's like people who 1085 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,000 eat too much sugar. There have been articles 1086 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,000 and I'm sure Gary Nowell 1087 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,000 and people have talked about the effects of 1088 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,000 sugar on children and hyperactivity. 1089 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,000 Hey, what about adults? 1090 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,000 What about adults and sugar and hyperactivity 1091 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,000 and criminal behavior because 1092 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,000 people are not thinking right? 1093 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,000 I think you know the answer to that, 1094 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,000 why people don't say this 1095 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,000 because a lot of people really don't care. 1096 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,000 That's the sad fact. 1097 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,000 I saw a report, I think it was 1098 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,000 a few nights ago on channel 2 1099 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,000 late news about 1100 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,000 the new Giuliani policy 1101 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,000 or actually no, it was the new transit authority 1102 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,000 policy which I'm not sure if it had its roots in the 1103 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,000 Giuliani administration. 1104 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,000 Basically, the people on the train 1105 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,000 this is how they pretty much phrased it. 1106 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,000 They said the people on the train that harass 1107 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,000 you and 1108 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,000 intimidate you and 1109 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,000 make your commute and your subway ride 1110 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,000 miserable by asking for money 1111 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,000 and chasing you 1112 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,000 and threatening you and all that kind of thing. 1113 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,000 They're going to be stopped. 1114 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,000 They're going to arrest 1115 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,000 the beggars on the train 1116 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,000 and this whole big report was basically 1117 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,000 meant to get all the 1118 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,000 yuppie commuters 1119 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,000 feeling great about how nice 1120 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,000 the subway will be to ride in. 1121 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,000 Not one word was said about why these people 1122 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,000 compelled to beg 1123 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,000 in the first place. Is anything being done for them? 1124 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,000 About doing something for them. 1125 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,000 The tone of the report was just so callous 1126 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,000 I could not believe it. 1127 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,000 I just couldn't believe that they wouldn't think 1128 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,000 well maybe there should be something 1129 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,000 some explanation 1130 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,000 some service, something offered 1131 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,000 to help these people. 1132 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,000 But nothing. Not a word. 1133 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,000 Well he's a bandage. All these treatments 1134 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,000 all these police on the street 1135 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,000 it's all a bandage. It's not getting to the root of the problem. 1136 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,000 It's like the rotary phone thing. 1137 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,000 It's not going to solve anything. 1138 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,000 But why should we pay politicians 1139 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,000 and government 1140 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,000 Why is government growing and we're shrinking? 1141 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,000 Why is government growing and they have 1142 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,000 bonuses and all these 1143 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,000 we're going to escape from the planet 1144 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,000 billions of dollars for whatever 1145 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,000 sure, science fiction is 1146 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,000 fun to read about, but they're going to get up to 1147 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,000 Mars and find what? 1148 00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,000 Why doesn't that money be 1149 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,000 put into... 1150 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,000 That's where I disagree because I do think 1151 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,000 we should go to Mars, but I think there is money 1152 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,000 there. I think there's plenty of money there. 1153 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,000 And if we just take the money that we spend on destroying 1154 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,000 ourselves, you know what? We're going to have that money 1155 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,000 to help ourselves. 1156 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,000 Hey, that's right, but why don't we address 1157 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,000 the problems that we have on Earth 1158 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,000 when you get up in the morning, do you just run right out of bed? 1159 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,000 No, you get dressed, you wash, you shower 1160 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,000 you eat, you do whatever 1161 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,000 you take care of yourself before you go to Mars 1162 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,000 before you go somewhere. You've got to take care 1163 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,000 of Earth. And then 1164 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,000 when we're ready to go to Mars 1165 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,000 you know, isn't it funny how that probe 1166 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,000 what was it? The Jupiter probe or the Mars probe 1167 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,000 it disappeared. 1168 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,000 And it's not the first one to do that either. 1169 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,000 You know, what do you think? 1170 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,000 You think they're up there and they're making it 1171 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,000 disappear? I mean, come on. 1172 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,000 There's definitely something out there. I think, you know 1173 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,000 that's obviously the case. 1174 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,000 Do you hear yourself 1175 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,000 cutting in and out or is that just on my phone? 1176 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,000 No, that's you. You see, I never get to hear that, but 1177 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,000 I know everybody that calls in does hear that and that's one of the 1178 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,000 things we want to try to fix. 1179 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,000 Do you have voice activated? You're not speaking 1180 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,000 to a phone then, right? 1181 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,000 No, there's a microphone that feeds into the phone system, but 1182 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,000 somewhere along the lines, I think a rat or something 1183 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,000 has chewed through one of the connections and we have to 1184 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,000 find out where that is. 1185 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,000 You're cutting in and out. I've never heard that before 1186 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,000 and I have called in before on the other line. 1187 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,000 Really? Well, usually I try to say things that are 1188 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,000 intelligent enough so that you only have to 1189 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,000 hear every other word to really understand 1190 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,000 what I'm saying. I just want to say one more thing 1191 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,000 about something that I do. 1192 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,000 I go to a particular store 1193 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,000 that when I discovered this a few years ago 1194 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,000 when the new food comes in 1195 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,000 they throw out the old food. 1196 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,000 I go at the time 1197 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,000 when that happens, the night 1198 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,000 before and I take 1199 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,000 all the food and I feed people 1200 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,000 with it and if people would make 1201 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,000 contact with their supermarkets 1202 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,000 and health food stores and whatever 1203 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,000 they would find that there is waste 1204 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,000 and they just don't have anything to do with it. 1205 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,000 Even McDonald's, you know 1206 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,000 if you're really hungry at the end of the night 1207 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,000 go to McDonald's just before they're 1208 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,000 closing and they'll probably give you 1209 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,000 food, but there's so much 1210 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,000 food, there's so much waste and I've noticed 1211 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,000 another thing, which is not food, but 1212 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,000 the bookstores at the 1213 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,000 end of the month or when they're through 1214 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,000 when the new shipment comes in, they rip 1215 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,000 off the front page of books and 1216 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,000 magazines and whatever's 1217 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,000 on the shelf the day before and they 1218 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,000 throw it out into the garbage. They do 1219 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,000 it with shoes. What a 1220 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,000 waste. Why must we waste? 1221 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,000 Why must there be waste? That's where people like you 1222 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,000 come in, people that care. 1223 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,000 Well, but what can I, you know, I do what I can do 1224 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,000 but my purpose 1225 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,000 is not to just, you know, blast my horn 1226 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,000 on the air. I'm hoping I'm reaching people 1227 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,000 and I'm talking to people in the area. 1228 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,000 The fact that you do what you can do, I mean 1229 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,000 that sets you apart from... That's what I'm doing. I'm trying to reach out 1230 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,000 to people. I've been doing this for 25 years. 1231 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,000 I've been trying to talk, especially the Bob 1232 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,000 Grant show. No, I don't talk on his show. 1233 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,000 Well, I don't know if anybody 1234 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,000 talks on his show, but that's beside the point. 1235 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,000 No, he screens all his calls. You know, you ever listen 1236 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,000 he doesn't even give out the number anymore. 1237 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,000 Only certain people that belong to his club... 1238 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,000 That's because they're playing recordings from the 50s. 1239 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,000 I don't know. 1240 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,000 Okay, let's give somebody else a chance. Thank you. 1241 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,000 Nice talking to you. 1242 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,000 That's the kind of people we need. 1243 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,000 People that care, people that will do something. 1244 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,000 And it may not seem like much, 1245 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,000 you know, if you 1246 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,000 go and help somebody out, 1247 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,000 there's still a thousand more people that need help. 1248 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,000 But it does. 1249 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,000 Because maybe you'll reach 1250 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,000 other people that can help other people. 1251 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,000 And it's 1252 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,000 exponential. Hopefully 1253 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,000 more and more of this will go away. 1254 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,000 With a combination 1255 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,000 of pressure and a combination of charity 1256 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,000 on our particular 1257 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,000 you know, 1258 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,000 individual 1259 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,000 way of looking at things. 1260 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,000 212-279-3400 1261 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,000 is our pledge line. 1262 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,000 All right, I'm going to tell you what 9X 1263 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,000 stands for. You ready? And they don't say this very much 1264 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,000 anymore. 1265 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,000 Yes, the first caller was right. 1266 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,000 New York, New England. What does the X stand for? 1267 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,000 My friends, X 1268 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,000 stands for the unknown. 1269 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,000 I don't know how they got that 1270 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,000 exactly, but X is the 1271 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,000 algebraic equation, I suppose, 1272 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,000 that means something that they 1273 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,000 do not yet know what it is. 1274 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,000 And that's why the X is also 1275 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,000 kind of transparent. You know, if you look at it, it's not 1276 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,000 a solid letter. It's because it hasn't been finished yet. 1277 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,000 And knowing 9X would probably never be finished. 1278 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,000 But that's 1279 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,000 their kind of mystical, poetic 1280 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,000 way of looking at 1281 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,000 the future. 1282 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,000 And maybe when they figure out what the future will be, 1283 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,000 it will just be called 9, but I doubt it. 1284 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,000 That's 9X. Yeah. 1285 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,000 All right, we're going to take a little break. 1286 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,000 And when we come back, 1287 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,000 we're going to tell you all about fiber optic. 1288 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,000 While we're away, 1289 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,000 let's get some phone calls coming in. 1290 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,000 212-279-3400, 1291 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,000 please show your support 1292 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,000 for this radio station. We're going 1293 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,000 an extra hour tonight. This is the only time 1294 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,000 we're going to be on during the marathon. We're not going to be on 1295 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,000 next week. We're not going to be on the week after that. 1296 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,000 So if you want to show support 1297 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,000 for Off The Hook, this is the 1298 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,000 time to do it. 212-279-3400. 1299 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,000 We accept Visa and MasterCard. 1300 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,000 And if you are particularly generous 1301 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,000 and wish to pledge $75, we will 1302 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,000 send you, the people of 2600 1303 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,000 Magazine will thank you personally 1304 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,000 and send you a full year of 1305 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,000 the magazine. 212-279-3400. 1306 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,000 Please let us 1307 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,000 light up those lines. There is one 1308 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,000 call on the line. I know we can fill it up. I know 1309 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,000 we can get seven calls. 1310 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,000 Seven is the number. 1311 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,000 So we need six more people. 1312 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,000 And you're one of those people. 1313 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,000 212-279-3400. 1314 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,000 Let's show 1315 00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,000 some people power out there. 1316 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,000 It's very easy to just 1317 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,000 say somebody else is going to take care of 1318 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,000 this particular problem. Somebody else is going to 1319 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,000 see that something 1320 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,000 changes, see that something is done 1321 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,000 that will 1322 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,000 make a difference. But 1323 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,000 in actuality, you're the person that makes that 1324 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,000 difference. We all are. 1325 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,000 Everybody does 1326 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,000 something. 1327 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,000 Where a single voice 1328 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,000 can often reach 1329 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,000 many, many people 1330 01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,000 and change their lives. 1331 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,000 212-279-3400. 1332 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,000 Please give us a call. 1333 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,000 We'll be back in a few minutes. 1334 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,000 Thanks. 1335 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,000 . 1336 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,000 . 1337 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,000 . 1338 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,000 . 1339 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,000 . 1340 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,000 . 1341 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,000 . 1342 01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,000 . 1343 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,000 . 1344 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,000 . 1345 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,000 . 1346 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,000 . 1347 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